On Thursday, October 4, 2012 6:55:47 PM UTC-4, stathisp wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Craig Weinberg > <whats...@gmail.com<javascript:>> > wrote: > > > > > > On Wednesday, October 3, 2012 11:56:59 PM UTC-4, stathisp wrote: > >> > >> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 7:54 AM, Craig Weinberg <whats...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> > 1) I understand and respect your argument here 100%. > >> > 2) I think that I have a better explanation > >> > >> The better explanation is the simpler one. Your explanation adds > >> extra, unnecessary and unsupported by any evidence layers to the one > >> Darwin came up with. > >> > > > > Are you saying that Darwin has an explanation for the origin of order? > > Yes, mutation and natural selection. >
No. Natural selection is a type of order. Mutation describes a deviation from an established order which itself contributes to order. I am open to the possibility that not everyone is able to grasp this, however if you are going to try to convince me that you are seeing something that I'm not, then you will be wasting your time. I understand exactly what you don't see, but because consciousness is intuitive and experiential rather than logical, there is nothing that I can say to make you see that your view leaves out the glaringly obvious. The cosmology you suggest is something along the lines of "Once upon a time, there was randomness and emptiness which became living organisms eventually because that is inevitably one of the things that can happen.". Sort of like saying if you throw enough sand in a bucket, eventually it will play football and develop ballet and forget that it was ever sand. Craig > > -- > Stathis Papaioannou > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/puNKa6bbuvMJ. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.