Hi Bruno Marchal I understand that comp does not include subjectivity, but that's just explicitly. Perhaps something can be made of the results, like extract energy (structure, which I take to be an essential of consciousness) from the results. Hmmm. That would be a numerical caclulation. Could you be wrong ?
Roger Clough, [email protected] 10/6/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-10-05, 11:13:06 Subject: Re: Subjectivity is no longer a dirty word! A nice video discussingthe dual aspect theory Hi Richard, Stephen, Roger, Dual aspect theories are plausibly incompatible with comp. In that sense Craig is more coherent, but Stephen, and Chalmers, seems not. They avoid the comp necessary reformulation of the mind-body problem. It is still Aristotle theory variants, unaware of the first person indeterminacy. It might be compatible with comp, but then this asks for a non trivial derivation, and some conspiracy of the numbers. Bruno On 05 Oct 2012, at 13:15, Richard Ruquist wrote: > Along the theme of a dual-aspect theory of reality, > I recommend the book > "Mind and Cosmos:Why the Materialist Neo-Darwinian Conception of > Nature Is Almost Certainly False" by Nagel, Thomas. > It actually has little to do with Darwin but rather discusses how > consciousness, cognition, etc. cannot not be explained by materialism. > Richard > > > On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 6:02 AM, Roger Clough > wrote: >> Hi Stephen P. King >> >> Many thanks, Stephan ! >> >> I should have known it before, but >> double-aspect and/or dual-aspect theories >> of mind aren't afraid of using the word >> "subjectivity". >> >> Now all they have to do is find out >> who or what is the subjectr of subjectivity ! >> >> >> >> >> Roger Clough, [email protected] >> 10/5/2012 >> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen >> >> >> ----- Receiving the following content ----- >> From: Stephen P. King >> Receiver: everything-list >> Time: 2012-10-04, 09:14:20 >> Subject: A nice video discussing the dual aspect theory >> >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ3Z-Y99wW0 >> >> -- >> Onward! >> >> Stephen >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Everything List" group. >> To post to this group, send email to everything- >> [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en >> . >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Everything List" group. >> To post to this group, send email to everything- >> [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en >> . >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en > . > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
