Hi Craig Weinberg  

There are three things:

1) The experiences of each twin, which may be the same or differ (we'll never 
know).

2) What they describe or interpret of their experiences in words.

3) They may the same experience but describe it differently.


Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 
10/9/2012  
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen 


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Time: 2012-10-08, 16:25:20 
Subject: Re: Zombieopolis Thought Experiment 




On Monday, October 8, 2012 3:38:42 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: 
On 10/8/2012 11:25 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote:  


On Monday, October 8, 2012 2:19:56 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote:  
On 10/8/2012 10:24 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote:  
So the more stimulation you get through your senses of the outside environment 
the less conscious you become. Huh? 


Stimulation that you get thorough your senses of the outside environment does 
not control you. 

How could you possibly know that, considering that John has accumulated many 
years of stimulation? 


Just look at the Conjoined Twins video I posted. Those two people are 
genetically identical, occupy the same body, experience stimulation that is 
very similar, yet they *routinely* disagree. 


Similar isn't the same. 


But the behavior varies in similarity while their stimulation does not. Clearly 
they are each controlling their own behavior separately, even though the degree 
to which their stimulation from the outside world does not vary separately. If 
the internal conditions were sufficient to allow their control strategies to 
diverge, then they should not re-synchronize again and again constantly. Each 
difference should build on each other, like two slightly different fractal 
kernels wouldn't weave in and out of perfect synch all the time, they would 
follow completely anomalous paths. The fractals might look like the are 
exploring different patterns (if even that) but it seems like they would not 
keep going back to isomorphic patterns at the same time. 

Craig 

Brent 

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