On 25 Oct 2012, at 19:10, Stephen P. King wrote:

On 10/25/2012 11:13 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
If you're going to explain purpose, meaning, qualia, thoughts,...you need to start from something simpler that does not assume those things. Bruno proposes to explain matter as well, so he has to start without matter.

Actually I deduce the absence of matter from comp. If we bet on comp, we have no other choice than to explain matter from dream coherence notions. We can add matter, but it would be like invisible horses, and vision is a first person experience and it relies on the infinities of computation in arithmetic.
Dear Bruno,

No, matter would not be "like invisible horses". It quantifies the "resources" required for a computation to run. You safely neglect this in your explanations because you set COMP in the platonic realm of ideas, where time, space and limitations do not exist. I am trying to get your result to work in conditions that cannot ignore resource requirements.

I was talking on primitive matter. Arithmetic is full of local relative resources. No problem.



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