On 29 Oct 2012, at 17:10, John Clark wrote:

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012  Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
> Gödel and Turing have never touch on the first and third person issue.

Perhaps because they knew that neither they nor anybody else had anything interesting to add to the subject and they had better things to do with their time.

What is that for an argument?

Proceed in the UDA before judging. Or study computer science and use AUDA, which I wrote for the mathematicians, who asked for a version without philosophy of mind, other than what the machine can already prove. Thanks to a result of Solovay, this is given by a tiny bunch of modal logics, and everything is 3p there (but in UDA too, as the 1p notion used admit a simple 3p description (access to personal diary)).

UDA and AUDA just formulate the comp mind-body problem. If you are not interested in that problem, then just say nothing, but you talk sometimes like if there were no problem, or that other problem are more interesting (and that's is about you and never in the scope of the topic).

And yes, that modest formulation is enough to se that Plato win the Mind-Body match against Aristotle, but I have never asserted that this is the final match, especially that comp was close to be refuted or seriously doubted, if physics was not quantum-like.



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