I'm using this argument precisely to show that comp has no sensible way of handling levels of simulation. There is no simulation of energy, because energy is intrinsically tied to *the sole cosmos of realized mass and spacetime*. A simulation of motion is still motion. A simulation of color is still color. I only need one layer of hardware to simulate endless levels of cartoon universes, but none of these cartoon universes can simulate anything 'outside' of the ground floor hardware. Within the simulations, there is no problem. I can have a set of containers running virtual Windows servers, and they can have virtual Web browsers on them, which can run another virtual Windows server nested in that, etc... None of them have any problem simulating whatever worldly conditions I want to create. Whatever level confusion could arise is easily solved. I can change one byte on a virtual gear of a virtual engine and have it go from representing grinding torque and acceleration of mass to a ghostly image of gear shaped shadows spinning merrily through each other. Nothing like this happens in the bottom level of hardware. If anything realism is defined explicitly in opposition to this arbitrary materialization. There is strict thermodynamic conservation and concretely irreversible events. From any level within any of the simulations, there is no problem making radical changes to the physics on any other level, except the level that actually touches matter-energy-space-time. Comp is based on the reckless and unfounded assumption that there is no sole cosmos of realized function, and it uses that error to lock us in a tautological multiverse of Platonic phantoms. To me, it's great fiction, but it fails to locate reality. Craig > Jesse > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/G1d28YsbIrYJ. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.