On Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:53:19 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> On 16 Dec 2012, at 00:05, meekerdb wrote:
> > On 12/15/2012 7:09 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
> >> Hi Craig Weinberg
> >> Conservatives indeed generally resist most
> >> (but not all) change because the changes
> >> are emotionally based rather than logically based,
> >> and so often do more harm than good.
> >> And waste money.
> > You mean like abolishing slavery, universal education, giving women
> > the vote, putting up lightning rods, vaccination,... all those
> > 'emotionally based' changes that conservatives opposed in the name
> > of God, the bible, and the divine right of kings?
> >> We will have to wait to see if I am right or not,
> >> but all of the indications suggest that Obamacare
> >> will be at least a financial catastrophe.
> > It may well be, since conservatives prevented European style
> > national health care, which costs only half as much per capita. The
> > Dems had to compromise by mandating private insurance in order to
> > get the insurance company lobbyist on their side.
> In a working democracy, both the left and the right are important. You
> can vote on the left when the country go to far on the right, and on
> the right when he go to far on the left. That is what is important.
> The problem with "old" democracies, is that the politicians get to
> know each other and eventually, if the corruption level is too high,
> you can no more make difference, as they defend only special interests.
> Personally as long as the lies on drugs continue, I really doubt the
> word "politics" can have any sensible meaning. A working political
> systems necessitate some investment in education.
> Obama was very promising at the start, but he has quickly shown that
> the "democrats" can be more "republicans" than the republicans. We
> will see, as he might have more degree of freedom in his second term,
> but my hope are not so high about that.
> Yes, I agree. My standard comment is that the Democrats will say that they
> are going to do good things and not do them while Republicans will do bad
> things and then say that they are good.
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