On Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:53:19 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> On 16 Dec 2012, at 00:05, meekerdb wrote: 
> > On 12/15/2012 7:09 AM, Roger Clough wrote: 
> >> 
> >> Hi Craig Weinberg 
> >> 
> >> Conservatives indeed generally resist most 
> >> (but not all) change because the changes 
> >> are emotionally based rather than logically based, 
> >> and so often do more harm than good. 
> >> And waste money. 
> > 
> > You mean like abolishing slavery, universal education, giving women   
> > the vote, putting up lightning rods, vaccination,... all those   
> > 'emotionally based' changes that conservatives opposed in the name   
> > of God, the bible, and the divine right of kings? 
> > 
> >> 
> >> We will have to wait to see if I am right or not, 
> >> but all of the indications suggest that Obamacare 
> >> will be at least a financial catastrophe. 
> > 
> > It may well be, since conservatives prevented European style   
> > national health care, which costs only half as much per capita.  The   
> > Dems had to compromise by mandating private insurance in order to   
> > get the insurance company lobbyist on their side. 
> In a working democracy, both the left and the right are important. You   
> can vote on the left when the country go to far on the right, and on   
> the right when he go to far on the left. That is what is important. 
> The problem with "old" democracies, is that the politicians get to   
> know each other and eventually, if the corruption level is too high,   
> you can no more make difference, as they defend only special interests. 
> Personally as long as the lies on drugs continue, I really doubt the   
> word "politics" can have any sensible meaning. A working political   
> systems necessitate some investment in education. 
> Obama was very promising at the start, but he has quickly shown that   
> the "democrats" can be more "republicans" than the republicans. We   
> will see, as he might have more degree of freedom in his second term,   
> but my hope are not so high about that. 
> Bruno 
> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ 
> Yes, I agree. My standard comment is that the Democrats will say that they 
> are going to do good things and not do them while Republicans will do bad 
> things and then say that they are good.


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