Hi Craig Weinberg Ultimately we can arrive at a better society, but ultimately we will all be broke. Look at europe.
[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 12/16/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Craig Weinberg Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-12-15, 15:59:22 Subject: Re: Moral evaluations of harm are instant and emotional,brainstudyshows On Saturday, December 15, 2012 3:44:46 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote: On 12/15/2012 2:46 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Saturday, December 15, 2012 2:29:50 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote: On 12/15/2012 1:51 PM, Roger Clough wrote: > How about this: > Liberals are utopians, conservatives are skeptical of them. Dear Roger, No, All that is different between them is where their respective utopias lie. Liberals yearn for a future utopia on Earth, conservatives pine over their utopia in the past. I would agree with that, but the thing is, the former may or may not be possible but the latter is certainly impossible. What is there better to do than to try to push civilization in the direction of a future utopia? What could be more destructive and foolish than to try to undo what has happened and put future back in a box? Craig Hi Craig, How about we drop the entire idea of utopias and work together to solve the problems that we have with the tools that we know work (as they have worked before in similar situations). That is what Progressive politics is all about. That is how you move toward a better society. I have never heard them use the word utopia or perfect society though. "Those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat its mistakes" or some such... That's what I'm saying. Hanging on to slavery, apartheid, colonialism, etc was a mistake. Craig -- Onward! Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/0cVPlHnAqKkJ. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.