On Saturday, December 15, 2012 3:44:46 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote:
>
>  On 12/15/2012 2:46 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
>  
>
> On Saturday, December 15, 2012 2:29:50 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote: 
>>
>> On 12/15/2012 1:51 PM, Roger Clough wrote: 
>> > How about this: 
>> > Liberals are utopians, conservatives are skeptical of them. 
>>
>> Dear Roger, 
>>
>> No, All that is different between them is where their respective utopias 
>> lie. Liberals yearn for a future utopia on Earth, conservatives pine 
>> over their utopia in the past. 
>>
>
> I would agree with that, but the thing is, the former may or may not be 
> possible but the latter is certainly impossible. What is there better to do 
> than to try to push civilization in the direction of a future utopia? What 
> could be more destructive and foolish than to try to undo what has happened 
> and put future back in a box?
>
> Craig
>
>
> Hi Craig,
>
>     How about we drop the entire idea of utopias and work together to 
> solve the problems that we have with the tools that we know work (as they 
> have worked before in similar situations). 
>

That is what Progressive politics is all about. That is how you move toward 
a better society. I have never heard them use the word utopia or perfect 
society though.

 

> "Those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat its mistakes" 
> or some such...
>
>
 That's what I'm saying. Hanging on to slavery, apartheid, colonialism, etc*was 
a mistake
*. 

Craig

-- 
> Onward!
>
> Stephen
>
>  

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