On Saturday, December 15, 2012 3:44:46 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote: > > On 12/15/2012 2:46 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > On Saturday, December 15, 2012 2:29:50 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote: >> >> On 12/15/2012 1:51 PM, Roger Clough wrote: >> > How about this: >> > Liberals are utopians, conservatives are skeptical of them. >> >> Dear Roger, >> >> No, All that is different between them is where their respective utopias >> lie. Liberals yearn for a future utopia on Earth, conservatives pine >> over their utopia in the past. >> > > I would agree with that, but the thing is, the former may or may not be > possible but the latter is certainly impossible. What is there better to do > than to try to push civilization in the direction of a future utopia? What > could be more destructive and foolish than to try to undo what has happened > and put future back in a box? > > Craig > > > Hi Craig, > > How about we drop the entire idea of utopias and work together to > solve the problems that we have with the tools that we know work (as they > have worked before in similar situations). >
That is what Progressive politics is all about. That is how you move toward a better society. I have never heard them use the word utopia or perfect society though. > "Those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat its mistakes" > or some such... > > That's what I'm saying. Hanging on to slavery, apartheid, colonialism, etc*was a mistake *. Craig -- > Onward! > > Stephen > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/0cVPlHnAqKkJ. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.