On Saturday, December 15, 2012 3:44:46 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote:
> On 12/15/2012 2:46 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
> On Saturday, December 15, 2012 2:29:50 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote:
>> On 12/15/2012 1:51 PM, Roger Clough wrote:
>> > How about this:
>> > Liberals are utopians, conservatives are skeptical of them.
>> Dear Roger,
>> No, All that is different between them is where their respective utopias
>> lie. Liberals yearn for a future utopia on Earth, conservatives pine
>> over their utopia in the past.
> I would agree with that, but the thing is, the former may or may not be
> possible but the latter is certainly impossible. What is there better to do
> than to try to push civilization in the direction of a future utopia? What
> could be more destructive and foolish than to try to undo what has happened
> and put future back in a box?
> Hi Craig,
> How about we drop the entire idea of utopias and work together to
> solve the problems that we have with the tools that we know work (as they
> have worked before in similar situations).
That is what Progressive politics is all about. That is how you move toward
a better society. I have never heard them use the word utopia or perfect
> "Those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat its mistakes"
> or some such...
That's what I'm saying. Hanging on to slavery, apartheid, colonialism, etc*was
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