On 08 Jan 2013, at 15:59, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Bruno Marchal
Whoever invented the word "God" invented atheism.
Not necessarily. The modern notion of God comes with the platonist,
and was almost a synonym with "truth". There was an implicit, but
reasonable assumption, that humans search truth. Atheism has arised by
reaction to *imposed* notion of God, and, unfortunately, throws the
"theology" baby with the clerical bath water.
Before, God was a scientific hypothesis, more or less equivalent with
the idea that there is a reality which transcend us. By definition it
cannot be proved to exist, not even named. Exactly like "arithmetical
truth" has to appear for any sound machine.
Bruno
[Roger Clough], [[email protected]]
1/8/2013
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen
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Subject: Re: Science is a religion by itself.
On 07 Jan 2013, at 19:47, John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 wrote:
Consider God, a word for Mind
OK, I have a mind therefore I am God.
I said it before I'll say it again, for some strange reason that is
unknown to me many people are willing to abandon the idea of God but
not the word G-O-D. Those letters and in that sequence (DOG just
will not do) MUST be preserved and it doesn't matter what it means.
GOD means the reality in which you believe. It is, imo, a bit more
neutral than "Universe", which is the third Aristotelian God, and
which does not belong to what constitutes the "being" for the
Platonist. Since about 1500 years, the term "God" has acquired many
christian cultural colors, but there is no reason to identify God
with the God-father of Christian "theory". God has no name, in many
theologies, so all terms to designate it can only be a fuzzy
pointer. Tao is not bad, as it has many similar qualities than the
abramanic god, but with a less "person" feature. I use the term God
to designate whatever transcend us and is responsible for our
existence. With comp, I am open to the idea that (arithmetical)
truth can play that role, and this is exploited in the arithmetical
interpretation of Plotinus 'neoplatonism'.
Bruno
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
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