On Wednesday, January 23, 2013 6:58:03 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote:
> Hi John Clark
> From his hostile postings, Craig seems to have been very
> very badly hurt by the Christian Church sometime in the past.
Haha, not at all. Some of my best memories in high school were of drinking
beers and smoking cloves with the lovely and exciting girls from my
friend's church group. I think cathedrals are wonderful. Church services
bore me but not as much as synagogue services - wow, if you want to have a
monotonous meaningless experience try sitting through a three hour
monologue in Hebrew.
I just think that the idea of an anthropomorphic God is an unfortunate and
seductive mistake. If I sound hostile, it is because of the tremendous
damage that this concept can do to people's lives. I am hostile toward
crystal meth too. I love the idea of recreational drugs, but I have known
too many exceptional people who have seen the course of their lives
derailed by crystal.
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> *Time:* 2013-01-22, 13:23:37
> *Subject:* Re: HOW YOU CAN BECOME A LIBERAL THEOLOGIAN IN JUST 4 STEPS.
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Craig Weinberg
> > wrote:
> >> The astronomer Giordano Bruno would not have been surprised to hear
>>> that the invention of science was a fight against theology, he was burned
>>> alive by the church for suggesting that the bright points of light you see
>>> in the night sky were other suns very very far away.
>> >The Catholic Church of the 16th century is no more representative of
> In Europe in 1600 the Catholic Church was not representative of theology
> it virtually was theology; competing franchises like Judaism and Islam were
> just rounding errors, and they were just as dumb anyway. �
> >than ethnic cleansing is representative of Darwin.
> Huh?� Charles Darwin and ethnic cleansing, it does not compute.
> >> Explaining how complexity came about from simplicity is much better
>>> than saying complexity came about from even more complexity.
>> > Religion does the same thing.
> > The Tower of Babel. Noah's Ark. Genesis. Complexity emerges from
> God is not simple, although very often the believers in God are.�
>> > Ron Popeil is not a theologian.
> True, Ron Popeil is much more moral than theologians because the stuff he
> sells on TV actually exists.
> >> What would lead to unemployment is if the LHC discovers nothing
>>> mysterious that contradicts what we think we know.
>> > Not really.
> Yes really.
> > Validating the standard model is just as profitable as mystery.
> Bullshit. Everybody knows that the standard model is very very good but
> they also know it can't be the end of the story because it says nothing
> about gravity or Dark Matter or Dark Energy nor can it explain why
> neutrinos have mass. And everybody knows that unlike telescopes that have
> found a lot of surprising stuff in fundamental physics, particle
> accelerators have not discovered anything surprising in almost 40 years
> (finding the Higgs was not surprising, not discovering it would have been
> surprising and that's why many hoped it didn't exist but they were
> disappointed), and if the LHC doesn't find anything new either it could be
> the last of these very expensive machines for a century.
> �ohn K Clark
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