On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>> The astronomer Giordano Bruno would not have been surprised to hear
>>>> that the invention of science was a fight against theology, he was burned
>>>> alive by the church for suggesting that the bright points of light you see
>>>> in the night sky were other suns very very far away.
>>> >>>The Catholic Church of the 16th century is no more representative of
>> >> In Europe in 1600 the Catholic Church was not representative of
>> theology it virtually was theology; competing franchises like Judaism and
>> Islam were just rounding errors, and they were just as dumb anyway.
> > Then by that logic, the practice of bloodletting should represent
> Medicine, and witch burning should represent Justice.
Medicine and science and Justice have improved since 1600 but as for
religion....., well I suppose the Catholic Church has improved too, after
all they did admit that they may have gone a bit too far in their treatment
of Galileo and that he may have had a point after all, they said this in
the year 2000. There have been calls for the church to reopen the case
against the astronomer Giordano Bruno and give hin a posthumous apology for
burning him alive but so far the church has not done so, but give them
time, it's only been 413 years, and I'm sure defending themselves from all
those pedophile cases must be time consuming.
> >> Huh? Charles Darwin and ethnic cleansing, it does not compute.
> > It did for many people.
Apparently you believe that Charles Darwin should be held accountable for
the sins of his cousin Francis Galton, but Darwin was never a social
Darwinist and opposed slavery long before it was popular to do so, in a
letter he said " what a proud thing for England, if she is the first
European nation which utterly abolish is it". But of course the personal
virtues or vices of Charles Darwin have nothing to do with the truth or
falsehood of his theory, it's just interesting that unlike Issac Newton who
was a complete bastard Darwin was a very nice man, even people who didn't
like his theory tended to like the man personally.
> > I take it as a given that you will think anything that I say is
Only if everything you say is bullshit. Try saying something that isn't
bullshit, who knows maybe you'll like it.
> > Genesis also - simple - first with the light, then with the dividing the
> waters and whatnot
Genesis hypothesizes that something grand and complex (God) produced
something less grand and less complex (humans), but Darwin provided a
mechanism by which something complex (humans) could be produced by
something less grand and less complex (bacteria) ; and that is why Charles
Darwin was a vastly superior human being compared to whatever nameless bozo
it was that wrote Genesis.
> >> Ron Popeil is much more moral than theologians because the stuff he
>> sells on TV actually exists.
> > Still, televangelism is not representative of theology as a whole.
Theology is just like any other line of work, not everybody manages to
reach the very top.
John K Clark
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