On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 8:28:24 PM UTC-5, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:05:37AM -0800, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > When we talk about a Bp, relating to consciousness is that we are making > an > > assumption about what a proposition is. In fact, if we look closely, a > > proposition can only be another level of B. p is really nothing but a > group > > of sub-personal Beliefs (logarithmically nested as B^n) which we are > > arbitrarily considered as a given condition...but there is no given > > condition in actual experience. All experiences are contingent upon what > > the experiencer is capable of receiving or interacting with. > > > > I don't really follow your remaining comments, but I agree with you > that the p in the Theatetical definition of knowledge makes me > uncomfortable, post Popper. > > I'm happy for Bp & p to apply to mathematical knowledge, with B > semantically equivalent to "prove", but when it comes to scientific > knowledge, requiring absolute truth in things seems a step too far. >

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I agree - for mathematical knowledge, I have no problem with it. > > But I have no constructive suggestions as to how to modify Theatetus :(. > It may not have to be modified, but if we apply it to anything with true 1p subjectivity, I think p could be redefined in the what that I was trying to propose, i.e. instead of p, there is a logarithmic scale of B (i.e. beliefs are a perception of a set of perceptions), then B and p are understood to be relativistic measures of sense-of-sense corroboration. Craig PS With the Simulacrum stuff I was saying that it's bad juju to sneak simulation of any kind into our understanding of consciousness. > Cheers > > -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > Principal, High Performance Coders > Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpc...@hpcoders.com.au<javascript:> > University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.