On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 8:28:24 PM UTC-5, Russell Standish wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:05:37AM -0800, Craig Weinberg wrote: 
> > When we talk about a Bp, relating to consciousness is that we are making 
> an 
> > assumption about what a proposition is. In fact, if we look closely, a 
> > proposition can only be another level of B. p is really nothing but a 
> group 
> > of sub-personal Beliefs (logarithmically nested as B^n) which we are 
> > arbitrarily considered as a given condition...but there is no given 
> > condition in actual experience. All experiences are contingent upon what 
> > the experiencer is capable of receiving or interacting with. 
> > 
> I don't really follow your remaining comments, but I agree with you 
> that the p in the Theatetical definition of knowledge makes me 
> uncomfortable, post Popper. 
> I'm happy for Bp & p to apply to mathematical knowledge, with B 
> semantically equivalent to "prove", but when it comes to scientific 
> knowledge, requiring absolute truth in things seems a step too far. 

I agree - for mathematical knowledge, I have no problem with it.  

> But I have no constructive suggestions as to how to modify Theatetus :(. 

It may not have to be modified, but if we apply it to anything with true 1p 
subjectivity, I think p could be redefined in the what that I was trying to 
propose, i.e. instead of p, there is a logarithmic scale of B (i.e. beliefs 
are a perception of a set of perceptions), then B and p are understood to 
be relativistic measures of sense-of-sense corroboration.  


PS With the Simulacrum stuff I was saying that it's bad juju to sneak 
simulation of any kind into our understanding of consciousness. 

> Cheers 
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