On 2/14/2013 9:43 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Thursday, February 14, 2013 6:52:21 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote:
On 2/14/2013 6:08 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
> I don't think there are any models or systems at all. Not
physically.
> There are only presentations and re-presentations. Habits and
inertia.
I agree, they cannot be "physical" at all, they are
representations
not things-in-themselves (objects). The trick is to see the
difference
between the general properties of representations and objects
while not
thinking of they as separable. For any object there exist at least
one
representation and for every representation there exists at least one
object. This sets up the isomorphism of the Stone duality.
I'm on board with that, but I think to complete the picture, both the
subjective representations (models) and objective representations
(objects) should be understood to exist only through subjective
presentations (sense). The isomorphism of the Stone duality requires
sense to relate topologies to algebras, i.e. they don't relate to each
other directly and independently of an observer. The duality is a
reflection of the observer's capacity to observe.
Craig
OK, let's take it to the next step. Let us agree that "they don't
relate to each other directly and independently of an observer", they
being represented as X and Y. Does this require that there does not
exist an observer Z than can see both of X's and Y's total world lines
simultaneously? If the world line of Z is longer than that of X and Y by
some number then they would be able to communicate directly (well you
know what I mean) and thus be able to come to some complete agreement
that Z knows all about X and Y.
Could Z be said to 'know' a representation of the life and times of
X and Y?
--
Onward!
Stephen
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