On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 4:38 PM, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Last week PLoS ONE received its first impact factor — a stunning 4.351. > > > Stunning? Nature = 51.15 Science = 47.72; and you're bragging about a > 4.351? > >> > This puts the open access journal in the top 25th percentile of ISI’s >> “Biology” > > > There are many thousands of science journals, so that means there are many > hundreds that are better than PLoS ONE; thus nobody, absolutely positively > nobody, would publish an article in PLoS ONE that they thought was important > if they could get it published in a better journal. > >> >> > where nobel laureates submit articles to. > > > I imagine that Nobel laureates have posted lots of stuff on the internet to > many different message boards over the years, but the question to ask is how > many of those Nobel laureates received their prize for stuff posted to PLoS > ONE? Zero. In contrast although I haven't counted it out I would estimate > that 60% of all the Nobel Prizes given out since 1945 in physics or > chemistry or medicine was for articles published in just 4 journals, Nature, > Science, Physical Review Letters, and The New England journal of Medicine. > >> > PLoS ONE is the best known journal of the open-access movement, > > > That's like being the most virile eunuch in the harem.
This is getting comically Freudian. :) > >> >I never even mentioned religion in this discussion. > > >> "I invite you to pause for a second and notice how religious you are >> about Science with a capital S." > > > Wow, calling a guy known for not liking religion religious! Never heard > that one before, at least not before the sixth grade. > >>> >> Well if you're that confident then this is a simple no risk way for >>> >> you to make $1000, hey I'm giving you 10 to 1 odds it's easy money! So >>> >> are >>> >> you willing to put your money where your mouth is? >> >> >> > No, I agree with you on the odds. > > > But why do you agree with the odds? If a very low ranking journal got > astonishingly lucky and published a paper of HUGE transcendental importance > before much higher ranked journals then it's just a matter of time before > the much higher ranked journals catch on and start publishing articles on > that subject of their own. But I'll tell you what, because I like you for a > limited time only I'm willing to increase the odds to 100 to 1; if you > accept this bet before noon tomorrow on the east coast of the USA and if > Science or Nature or Physical Review Letters publishes a positive article > about life after death before April 5 2014 I will give you $10,000, if none > of them do you only have to give me $100. But wait there's more! As a > special bonus if you win not only will I give you $10,000 but I will also > kiss your ass and give you 10 minutes to gather a crowd. Operators are > standing by, don't delay. > >> > You don't understand what I'm saying at all. > > > True, but the question is do you understand what you're saying at all? What I'm trying to say is that I believe you do not distinguish: A) Science the method of inquiry from B) Science the human institution You put both in the same bag. By doing that you fail to apply A to B and even A to A. This creates a blind spot. As for the scientific journals, Russel was way more eloquent than me. Telmo. > John K Clark > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
