On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 4:38 PM, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com> wrote: > >> > Last week PLoS ONE received its first impact factor — a stunning 4.351. > > > Stunning? Nature = 51.15 Science = 47.72; and you're bragging about a > 4.351? > >> > This puts the open access journal in the top 25th percentile of ISI’s >> “Biology” > > > There are many thousands of science journals, so that means there are many > hundreds that are better than PLoS ONE; thus nobody, absolutely positively > nobody, would publish an article in PLoS ONE that they thought was important > if they could get it published in a better journal. > >> >> > where nobel laureates submit articles to. > > > I imagine that Nobel laureates have posted lots of stuff on the internet to > many different message boards over the years, but the question to ask is how > many of those Nobel laureates received their prize for stuff posted to PLoS > ONE? Zero. In contrast although I haven't counted it out I would estimate > that 60% of all the Nobel Prizes given out since 1945 in physics or > chemistry or medicine was for articles published in just 4 journals, Nature, > Science, Physical Review Letters, and The New England journal of Medicine. > >> > PLoS ONE is the best known journal of the open-access movement, > > > That's like being the most virile eunuch in the harem.
This is getting comically Freudian. :) > >> >I never even mentioned religion in this discussion. > > >> "I invite you to pause for a second and notice how religious you are >> about Science with a capital S." > > > Wow, calling a guy known for not liking religion religious! Never heard > that one before, at least not before the sixth grade. > >>> >> Well if you're that confident then this is a simple no risk way for >>> >> you to make $1000, hey I'm giving you 10 to 1 odds it's easy money! So >>> >> are >>> >> you willing to put your money where your mouth is? >> >> >> > No, I agree with you on the odds. > > > But why do you agree with the odds? If a very low ranking journal got > astonishingly lucky and published a paper of HUGE transcendental importance > before much higher ranked journals then it's just a matter of time before > the much higher ranked journals catch on and start publishing articles on > that subject of their own. But I'll tell you what, because I like you for a > limited time only I'm willing to increase the odds to 100 to 1; if you > accept this bet before noon tomorrow on the east coast of the USA and if > Science or Nature or Physical Review Letters publishes a positive article > about life after death before April 5 2014 I will give you $10,000, if none > of them do you only have to give me $100. But wait there's more! As a > special bonus if you win not only will I give you $10,000 but I will also > kiss your ass and give you 10 minutes to gather a crowd. Operators are > standing by, don't delay. > >> > You don't understand what I'm saying at all. > > > True, but the question is do you understand what you're saying at all? What I'm trying to say is that I believe you do not distinguish: A) Science the method of inquiry from B) Science the human institution You put both in the same bag. By doing that you fail to apply A to B and even A to A. This creates a blind spot. As for the scientific journals, Russel was way more eloquent than me. Telmo. > John K Clark > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
