There is no hell
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Craig Weinberg <[email protected]>wrote: > > > On Friday, April 5, 2013 3:39:52 PM UTC-4, JohnM wrote: >> >> I think I side with Craig: NDE is not "N" enough, is not "D" because the >> 'observer' (gossiper?) came "back" and not "E" - rather a compendium >> of hearsay (s)he stored previously about "D"-like phenomena. >> When a (human or other) complexity dissolves (= death) nobody comes back >> to tell the stories. This comes from a 'participant' and long time partner >> in OUIJA-board sessions of honest friends. I still cannot explain those >> miraculous experiences (saved my life once) coming allegedly from 'dead' >> benefactors I knew before they died. >> > > Someone brought a OUIJA board to school in fourth grade and I was using it > with a friend. Unimpressed, another fourth girl that neither of us knew > very well said we should ask a question that nobody would know. She asked > what the name of her bird was. As the word LANCELOT was spelled out, she > was dumbstruck. This was a very studious 10 year old Asian girl in a highly > gifted program - we covered a lot of science in class and I think it is > safe to say that she was scientifically oriented. If she had some secret > pact with the girl I was doing the board with, she certainly didn't seem > very happy about it and she didn't seem like a very good actress. She > seemed confused and worried and did not want any more to do with the board. > > Craig > > >> I do not support the reference to the BIG journals (had ~100 >> publications, some in such, then was editor of a 'smaller' one) - it is >> 'click-stuff' and refereed by well selected (opinionated) scientists >> mostly. However the reference to the Nobel prize lost its credibility e.g. >> with certain (peace)Prize assignment going to a war-monger politician. Even >> in sciences it occurred that hypothetical and fantasy-based ideas were >> awarded the Prize (e.g. circumstances of the Big Bang etc.). Not to mention >> the questionable lit. >> >> What does an agnostic like myself believe? that we don't know 'it'. >> >> John M >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 3:56 PM, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> > Dull in what way? >>>> >>> >>> Dull in the way that reading what some Bozo I've never heard of typed >>> onto a obscure website about experimental results that would revolutionize >>> not just science but the entire world if true are dull. >>> >>> > You didn't read the article I guess >>> >>> >>> I have not read it nor do I intend to; let me know when something like >>> that shows up in Science or Nature or Physical Review letters. >>> >>> John K Clark >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to everything-li...@**googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to everyth...@googlegroups.**com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >>> group/everything-list?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en> >>> . >>> For more options, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> >>> . >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
