The problem with electronic publishing is that for the most part such papers are not peer reviewed. The one exception I know of is the Journal of Cosmology- from personal experience. They rejected my paper because my references were to the online arXiv.com rather than peer reviewed print journals.
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 3:06 PM, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 Russell Standish <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Science and Nature cannot publish every manuscript they receive and >>> they shouldn't even if they could because that would defeat the entire >>> point of having journals. There is only room for a few articles so the >>> editors pick the ones out of the pile they receive every month that they >>> judge to be the most important. I don't see what else they could do. >>> >> >> > That's rubbish. With electronic publishing, there are no resource >> constraints in terms of the number of articles that can be published. That >> is a consideration only for print journals. >> > > And Nature and Science are print journals. Yes with electronic publishing > everything is available including the insane ramblings of every crackpot on > the planet, but if you want to get into Science or Nature you're going to > have to convince the editors that your article is probably correct and > probably important. And there is no reason in theory why in the future a > electronic journal couldn't be just as good as Science or Nature and in > fact I think that is likely to happen, but not if the journal decides to > publish everything it receives just because it can. > > >>> The thing about editorial rejection is that it is based on an editor >>>> deciding that the paper is not worth looking into. >>>> >>> >>> >> >> Exactly, but you almost make that sound like a bad thing. >>> >> >> > Yes it is. > > > That's what editors do that's their job, and if you disagree with their > decision you can read the article someplace else because you can be certain > it will end up somewhere. > > > It artificially creates a scarcity that is not there in practice. >> > > What scarcity??? No matter how bad the article is you can always put it on > the net at virtually no cost to you, and all 7 billion people on this > planet can read it if they want to, just don't expect the editors of > Science or Nature to say they think it is worth anybody's time to read. > > >> Would you publish experimental results from somebody that you know has >>> performed sloppy experiments in the past showing that bees don't make honey >>> and never have? >>> >> >> > I'd still send it out to peer review. > > > If I was one of those outside peer reviewers I'd be absolutely furious > that you'd send me something like that and would ask why you couldn't > figure out for yourself that is was crap; I mean, if you're the editor of > the Journal of Bees you really should know something about bees. And if > yours is a first rate journal I just don't understand where you're going to > find all those outside first rate peer reviewers to examine the huge pile > of manuscripts that you get every month, 95% of which are not just bad but > comically bad. And how long are you going to be able to keep those first > rate reviewers when you keep sending them insultingly bad articles? After > all, being first rate scientists themselves the reviewers have research of > their own to do and can't spend all their time reading the spam that you > send them. > > John K Clark > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
