The problem with electronic publishing is that for the most part such
papers are not peer reviewed. The one exception I know of is the Journal of
Cosmology- from personal experience. They rejected my paper because my
references were to the online arXiv.com rather than peer reviewed print
journals.


On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 3:06 PM, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 Russell Standish <li...@hpcoders.com.au> wrote:
>
>  >> Science and Nature cannot publish every manuscript they receive and
>>> they shouldn't even if they could because that would defeat the entire
>>> point of having journals. There is only room for a few articles so the
>>> editors pick the ones out of the pile they receive every month that they
>>> judge to be the most important. I don't see what else they could do.
>>>
>>
>> > That's rubbish. With electronic publishing, there are no resource
>> constraints in terms of the number of articles that can be published. That
>> is a consideration only for print journals.
>>
>
> And Nature and Science are print journals. Yes with electronic publishing
> everything is available including the insane ramblings of every crackpot on
> the planet, but if you want to get into Science or Nature you're going to
> have to convince the editors that your article is probably correct and
> probably important. And there is no reason in theory why in the future a
> electronic journal couldn't be just as good as Science or Nature and in
> fact I think that is likely to happen, but not if the journal decides to
> publish everything it receives just because it can.
>
>  >>> The thing about editorial rejection is that it is based on an editor
>>>> deciding that the paper is not worth looking into.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>  >> Exactly, but you almost make that sound like a bad thing.
>>>
>>
>> > Yes it is.
>
>
> That's what editors do that's their job, and if you disagree with their
> decision you can read the article someplace else because you can be certain
> it will end up somewhere.
>
> > It artificially creates a scarcity that is not there in practice.
>>
>
> What scarcity??? No matter how bad the article is you can always put it on
> the net at virtually no cost to you, and all 7 billion people on this
> planet can read it if they want to, just don't expect the editors of
> Science or Nature to say they think it is worth anybody's time to read.
>
> >> Would you publish experimental results from somebody that you know has
>>> performed sloppy experiments in the past showing that bees don't make honey
>>> and never have?
>>>
>>
>> > I'd still send it out to peer review.
>
>
> If I was one of those outside peer reviewers I'd be absolutely furious
> that you'd send me something like that and would ask why you couldn't
> figure out for yourself that is was crap; I mean, if you're the editor of
> the Journal of Bees you really should know something about bees. And if
> yours is a first rate journal I just don't understand where you're going to
> find all those outside first rate peer reviewers to examine the huge pile
> of manuscripts that you get every month, 95% of which are not just bad but
> comically bad. And how long are you going to be able to keep those first
> rate reviewers when you keep sending them insultingly bad articles? After
> all, being first rate scientists themselves the reviewers have research of
> their own to do and can't spend all their time reading the spam that you
> send them.
>
>   John K Clark
>
>
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