On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 14 Apr 2013, at 21:45, meekerdb wrote: > >> On 4/14/2013 6:37 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 12:52 AM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 4/13/2013 2:40 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >>>> ... >>>> What knowledge do you think has come from philosophy? >>> >>> You are aware that by asking this question you are already doing >>> philosophy? >>> >>> Some of my favorites: the scientific method, logic, the >>> systematisation of fallacies, Descarte's cogito, theories about >>> knowledge itself (Epistemology). The entire intellectual foundation of >>> western civilisation may make it to the list too, but it's a bit hard >>> to enumerate all the ideas... >>> >>>> Brent >>>> "The philosophy of science is just about as useful to scientists >>>> as ornithology is to birds." >>>> --- Steven Weinberg >>> >>> Funny as it might be to treat scientists as a biological class of >>> organisms, this is a bit silly. Popper's principle of falsifiability >>> seems rather useful to me. Occam's razor is not that bad either. >> >> >> Useful summaries of practice and explication of science, but are they >> *knowledge*? > > > There is no knowledge as such in science. Only falsifiable beliefs. > Oh, we can except some part of arithmetic perhaps.
The problem here is that we are mapping similar concepts to the same word. I understand what you mean, but there are other, less narrow definitions of the word (I know you know this). The definition most closely related to the common use of the word would be Plato's "justified true belief". No? Replying to Brent, under Plato's definition (which has problems that I am aware of), the examples I gave are indeed knowledge. There is a currently popular trend amongst positivists to believe that knowledge = scientific knowledge, and this is trivially absurd. Telmo. > Bruno > > > > >> >> Brent >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
