On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:08 PM, John Mikes <[email protected]> wrote:
> Let me interject in *&-*marked *BOLD ITALICS* lines into the texts of the > posts below > John M > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> On 12 Jun 2013, at 21:03, meekerdb wrote: >> >> There's still a free version of PGP available as GnuGP. But people >> generally don't want the inconvenience of dealing with encryption. >> >> On 6/12/2013 3:16 AM, Roger Clough wrote: >> >> How to protect your computer from spying by the IRS and Eric H. Holder, >> Jr. >> >> These days it seems that you need to protect yourself from more than >> commercial vendors, namely spying by the IRS and Eric H. Holder, Jr. >> Snowden, the man who recently exposed the NSA activities, says he can >> from his desktop listen to your telephone and read your email. >> >> >> But it would have been illegal for him to do so. People are always able >> to do illegal things. The question is what preventive measures should be >> taken. Snowden was an IT tech who was just supposed to keep the system >> running, so of course he had the ability to tap data flows. But there >> should have been some administrative oversight to keep him from doing that >> beyond what was necessary for his work (and maybe there was). >> >> The question is should it be legal for the government to collect this >> data. The Supreme Court has said it's Constitutional and polls say it's >> favor 62% to 34% by the public, so... >> >> *&- The overall collection of DATA is a hoax: only the addresses are >> collected without court order. The Hoopla is only political. The "majority" >> in the poll voted for security: to eliminate potential violent acts by >> 'enemies'. The Copnstitution is a 300yo thinking in medieval terms, usable >> for human principles, not the FACTS in our 21st c. life. I am a sharp >> critique of the government(s), in this case they work in our behalf.* >> >> http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/06/20/nsa-surveillance-fisa-court/2442899/ The Guardian article + documents referred to in both links: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/20/fisa-court-nsa-without-warrant PGC > The US government is doing the dictator trick (NDAA 12, NDAA 13). Those >> are not just non-constitutional they are anti-constitutional. >> >> The human rights applies to all humans, or they lost their meaning. >> >> The private life has to be respected for all humans. >> >> It seems clear to me that prohibition has succeeded in putting bandits >> into power, which makes legal or illegal things only for special interest. >> >> Health should be separated from the state, like religion. Free >> competition has to be allowed among all art of helping others, and nobody >> can pretend for you what is good to you. >> > *&- Except if YOU require the community to PAY for the curing of YOUR > sicknesses (maybe caused by YOUR own negligence) e.g. emphysema etc. by > smoking. * > >> >> Some people do money on fears and catastrophes. The war on drug is a >> golden mine for bandits and terrorists. >> After the NDAA 12 I am afraid that the war on terror begins to look to me >> suspiciously like the war on drug. >> >> The notion legal/illegal must be relativized when the evidences add that >> the government don't play with the rules. >> > *&- There is no "WAR ON TERROR" - nor ON DRUGS. There are 'efforts' and > 'lies'. Against CERTAIN aspects. * > *Others are accepted as 'money making' endeavours. The governments play > by their own rules, not with rules of anybody else. Governments ar > exploitative ensembles. * > > >> >> Bruno >> > > *&- John M* > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Brent >> >> >> >> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
