On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
> John, PGC, > > On 21 Jun 2013, at 02:24, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:08 PM, John Mikes <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Let me interject in *&-*marked *BOLD ITALICS* lines into the texts of >> the posts below >> John M >> >> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> On 12 Jun 2013, at 21:03, meekerdb wrote: >>> >>> There's still a free version of PGP available as GnuGP. But people >>> generally don't want the inconvenience of dealing with encryption. >>> >>> On 6/12/2013 3:16 AM, Roger Clough wrote: >>> >>> How to protect your computer from spying by the IRS and Eric H. >>> Holder, Jr. >>> >>> These days it seems that you need to protect yourself from more than >>> commercial vendors, namely spying by the IRS and Eric H. Holder, Jr. >>> Snowden, the man who recently exposed the NSA activities, says he can >>> from his desktop listen to your telephone and read your email. >>> >>> >>> But it would have been illegal for him to do so. People are always able >>> to do illegal things. The question is what preventive measures should be >>> taken. Snowden was an IT tech who was just supposed to keep the system >>> running, so of course he had the ability to tap data flows. But there >>> should have been some administrative oversight to keep him from doing that >>> beyond what was necessary for his work (and maybe there was). >>> >>> The question is should it be legal for the government to collect this >>> data. The Supreme Court has said it's Constitutional and polls say it's >>> favor 62% to 34% by the public, so... >>> >>> *&- The overall collection of DATA is a hoax: only the addresses are >>> collected without court order. * >>> >> > That's already not acceptable. > > > > > *The Hoopla is only political. The "majority" in the poll voted for >>> security: to eliminate potential violent acts by 'enemies'. * >>> >> > NDAA + FBI makes many enemies. According to the FBI, to write a mail in > favor of the constitution makes you a "suspect of terrorism". > > I have mocked the "conspiracy 9/11 theory, despite the building 7, but I > have mocked also those who announce the NDAA. After Obama signed it, I am > just much less sure and more vigilant. > > > > > > > *The Copnstitution is a 300yo thinking in medieval terms, usable for >>> human principles, not the FACTS in our 21st c. life. I am a sharp critique >>> of the government(s), in this case they work in our behalf.* >>> >> > The problems is when the facts don't make sense. > > > > > > >>> > > http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/06/20/nsa-surveillance-fisa-court/2442899/ > > The Guardian article + documents referred to in both links: > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/20/fisa-court-nsa-without-warrant > PGC > > > Thanks guitar boy, > > This interview on the subject is quite interesting: http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2013/06/19/podcast-show-112-nsa-whistleblower-goes-on-record-reveals-new-information-names-culprits/ Jason > > > > > >> The US government is doing the dictator trick (NDAA 12, NDAA 13). Those >>> are not just non-constitutional they are anti-constitutional. >>> >>> The human rights applies to all humans, or they lost their meaning. >>> >>> The private life has to be respected for all humans. >>> >>> It seems clear to me that prohibition has succeeded in putting bandits >>> into power, which makes legal or illegal things only for special interest. >>> >>> Health should be separated from the state, like religion. Free >>> competition has to be allowed among all art of helping others, and nobody >>> can pretend for you what is good to you. >>> >> *&- Except if YOU require the community to PAY for the curing of YOUR >> sicknesses (maybe caused by YOUR own negligence) e.g. emphysema etc. by >> smoking. * >> > > I personally disagree with this. But it is out of topic. > > > > >>> Some people do money on fears and catastrophes. The war on drug is a >>> golden mine for bandits and terrorists. >>> After the NDAA 12 I am afraid that the war on terror begins to look to >>> me suspiciously like the war on drug. >>> >>> The notion legal/illegal must be relativized when the evidences add that >>> the government don't play with the rules. >>> >> *&- There is no "WAR ON TERROR" - nor ON DRUGS. There are 'efforts' and >> 'lies'. Against CERTAIN aspects. * >> > > The term "war on drug" has been introduced by Nixon, and exploited by > Reagan, and there is a "war on drugs", like there are many people sent in > jail for non violent crime related to possession of marijuana. > There is a "War on terror", since Bush junior. > > Since the start, the marijuana problem is a construct. the proof of a > danger have all been debunked, each time. > But today we know that real dangerous drug, when prohibited, become much > more dangerous, as they will be sold by criminals who will target the kids > and the sick people. > > > > > > > *Others are accepted as 'money making' endeavours. The governments play >> by their own rules, not with rules of anybody else. Governments ar >> exploitative ensembles. * >> > > When a governments lies systematically on a subject, it means they defend > special interests, and not the interest of those who elected it, that hurts > everybody. > > Bruno > > > > >> >>> >>> Bruno >>> >> >> *&- John M* >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Brent >>> >>> >>> >>> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>> >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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