On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 12:27 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > I don't believe 9-11 was anything but a Jihadist conspiracy, not a Bush > conspiracy. Bush was an enormously flawed elitist, who slightly rose above > his station as prez. He really didn't benefit by 9-11, and he didn't pursue > Bin Laden into Pakistan, in Dec 2001. Both Clinton and Bush were asleep at > the wheel, Clinton because of ideology, Bush because he was, and is, naieve. > > Looking back to the OW organized protests of 2011 (now that OW is listed as > a targeted group) I view the conflict between the police and OW, as an > intra-family spat. One between unionized police who voted for BHO in 2008 > and OW which also voted for BHO in 2008. I am sure they both, by in large, > voted the same way in 2012. It was an intra family conflict, and the > Democratic party is quite used to this. > > Any more ideas on pc security? What about virtual desktops?
You're wasting your time. Securing your computer is pointless when the network is compromised. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> > To: everything-list <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Jun 25, 2013 5:51 am > Subject: Re: How to protect your computer from spying by the IRS and Eric H. > Holder, Jr. > > > On 25 Jun 2013, at 08:14, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> John, PGC, >> >> On 21 Jun 2013, at 02:24, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:08 PM, John Mikes <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Let me interject in &-marked BOLD ITALICS lines into the texts of the >>> posts below >>> John M >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12 Jun 2013, at 21:03, meekerdb wrote: >>>> >>>> There's still a free version of PGP available as GnuGP. But people >>>> generally don't want the inconvenience of dealing with encryption. >>>> >>>> On 6/12/2013 3:16 AM, Roger Clough wrote: >>>> >>>> How to protect your computer from spying by the IRS and Eric H. Holder, >>>> Jr. >>>> >>>> These days it seems that you need to protect yourself from more than >>>> commercial vendors, namely spying by the IRS and Eric H. Holder, Jr. >>>> Snowden, the man who recently exposed the NSA activities, says he can >>>> from his desktop listen to your telephone and read your email. >>>> >>>> >>>> But it would have been illegal for him to do so. People are always able >>>> to do illegal things. The question is what preventive measures should be >>>> taken. Snowden was an IT tech who was just supposed to keep the system >>>> running, so of course he had the ability to tap data flows. But there >>>> should have been some administrative oversight to keep him from doing that >>>> beyond what was necessary for his work (and maybe there was). >>>> >>>> The question is should it be legal for the government to collect this >>>> data. The Supreme Court has said it's Constitutional and polls say it's >>>> favor 62% to 34% by the public, so... >>>> >>>> &- The overall collection of DATA is a hoax: only the addresses are >>>> collected without court order. >> >> >> That's already not acceptable. >> >> >> >> >>>> The Hoopla is only political. The "majority" in the poll voted for >>>> security: to eliminate potential violent acts by 'enemies'. >> >> >> NDAA + FBI makes many enemies. According to the FBI, to write a mail in >> favor of the constitution makes you a "suspect of terrorism". >> >> I have mocked the "conspiracy 9/11 theory, despite the building 7, but I >> have mocked also those who announce the NDAA. After Obama signed it, I am >> just much less sure and more vigilant. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> The Copnstitution is a 300yo thinking in medieval terms, usable for >>>> human principles, not the FACTS in our 21st c. life. I am a sharp critique >>>> of the government(s), in this case they work in our behalf. >> >> >> The problems is when the facts don't make sense. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/06/20/nsa-surveillance-fisa-court/2442899/ >> >> The Guardian article + documents referred to in both links: >> >> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/20/fisa-court-nsa-without-warrant >> PGC >> >> >> Thanks guitar boy, >> > > This interview on the subject is quite interesting: > http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2013/06/19/podcast-show-112-nsa-whistleblower-goes-on-record-reveals-new-information-names-culprits/ > > > > It is very grave. The bandits get involve into a dark vicious circle. They > know that we know, and so develop paranoid tricks aggravating their case, > and their paranoïa, etc. All this is done to defend the top of a pyramidal > corrupted (and international) clan, but they take into hostage a large part > of the middle class and what subsist of democracy. > > They got power thanks to alcohol and then marijuana prohibition, but it is > also their fatal error, because the lies become obvious. > > Now, to survive they have to control the net, but that is just impossible. > They are doomed, but they will hurt a lot in the meantime. > > Bruno > > > > > > Jason > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> The US government is doing the dictator trick (NDAA 12, NDAA 13). Those >>>> are not just non-constitutional they are anti-constitutional. >>>> >>>> The human rights applies to all humans, or they lost their meaning. >>>> >>>> The private life has to be respected for all humans. >>>> >>>> It seems clear to me that prohibition has succeeded in putting bandits >>>> into power, which makes legal or illegal things only for special interest. >>>> >>>> Health should be separated from the state, like religion. Free >>>> competition has to be allowed among all art of helping others, and nobody >>>> can pretend for you what is good to you. >>> >>> &- Except if YOU require the community to PAY for the curing of YOUR >>> sicknesses (maybe caused by YOUR own negligence) e.g. emphysema etc. by >>> smoking. >> >> >> I personally disagree with this. But it is out of topic. >> >> >> >>>> >>>> Some people do money on fears and catastrophes. The war on drug is a >>>> golden mine for bandits and terrorists. >>>> After the NDAA 12 I am afraid that the war on terror begins to look to >>>> me suspiciously like the war on drug. >>>> >>>> The notion legal/illegal must be relativized when the evidences add that >>>> the government don't play with the rules. >>> >>> &- There is no "WAR ON TERROR" - nor ON DRUGS. There are 'efforts' and >>> 'lies'. Against CERTAIN aspects. >> >> >> The term "war on drug" has been introduced by Nixon, and exploited by >> Reagan, and there is a "war on drugs", like there are many people sent in >> jail for non violent crime related to possession of marijuana. >> There is a "War on terror", since Bush junior. >> >> Since the start, the marijuana problem is a construct. the proof of a >> danger have all been debunked, each time. >> But today we know that real dangerous drug, when prohibited, become much >> more dangerous, as they will be sold by criminals who will target the kids >> and the sick people. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Others are accepted as 'money making' endeavours. The governments play by >>> their own rules, not with rules of anybody else. Governments ar exploitative >>> ensembles. >> >> >> When a governments lies systematically on a subject, it means they defend >> special interests, and not the interest of those who elected it, that hurts >> everybody. >> >> Bruno >> >> >> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Bruno >>> >>> >>> &- John M >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Brent >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>>> >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> >> >> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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