I don't believe 9-11 was anything but a Jihadist conspiracy, not a Bush 
conspiracy. Bush was an enormously flawed elitist, who slightly rose above his 
station as prez. He really didn't benefit by 9-11, and he didn't pursue Bin 
Laden into Pakistan, in Dec 2001. Both Clinton and Bush were asleep at the 
wheel, Clinton because of ideology, Bush because he was, and is, naieve. 

Looking back to the OW organized protests of 2011 (now that OW is listed as a 
targeted group) I view the conflict between the police and OW, as an 
intra-family spat. One between unionized police who voted for BHO in 2008 and 
OW which also voted for BHO in 2008. I am sure they both, by in large, voted 
the same way in 2012. It was an intra family conflict, and the Democratic party 
is quite used to this. 

Any more ideas on pc security? What about virtual desktops?


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From: Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be>
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Sent: Tue, Jun 25, 2013 5:51 am
Subject: Re: How to protect your computer from spying by the IRS and Eric H. 
Holder, Jr.




On 25 Jun 2013, at 08:14, Jason Resch wrote:







On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:

John, PGC,



On 21 Jun 2013, at 02:24, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:







On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:08 PM, John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com> wrote:

Let me interject in &-marked BOLD ITALICS lines into the texts of the posts 
below
John M


On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:





On 12 Jun 2013, at 21:03, meekerdb wrote:



There's still a free version of PGP available as GnuGP.  But people generally 
don't want the inconvenience of dealing with encryption.

On 6/12/2013 3:16 AM, Roger Clough wrote:


How to protect your computer from spying by the IRS and Eric H. Holder, Jr.
 
These days it seems that you need to protect yourself from more than 
commercial vendors, namely spying by the IRS and Eric H. Holder, Jr.
Snowden, the man who recently exposed the NSA activities, says he can
from his desktop listen to your telephone and read your email.


But it would have been illegal for him to do so.  People are always able to do 
illegal things.  The question is what preventive measures should be taken.  
Snowden was an IT tech who was just supposed to keep the system running, so of 
course he had the ability to tap data flows.  But there should have been some 
administrative oversight to keep him from doing that beyond what was necessary 
for his work (and maybe there was).

The question is should it be legal for the government to collect this data.  
The Supreme Court has said it's Constitutional and polls say it's favor 62% to 
34% by the public, so...


&- The overall collection of DATA is a hoax: only the addresses are collected 
without court order. 









That's already not acceptable.














The Hoopla is only political. The "majority" in the poll voted for security: to 
eliminate potential violent acts by 'enemies'. 









NDAA + FBI makes many enemies. According to the FBI, to write a mail in favor 
of the constitution makes you a "suspect of terrorism".


I have mocked the "conspiracy 9/11 theory, despite the building 7, but I have 
mocked also those who announce the NDAA. After Obama signed it, I am just much 
less sure and more vigilant.


















The Copnstitution is a 300yo thinking in medieval terms, usable for human 
principles, not the FACTS in our 21st c. life. I am a sharp critique of the 
government(s), in this case they work in our behalf.









The problems is when the facts don't make sense.























http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/06/20/nsa-surveillance-fisa-court/2442899/


The Guardian article + documents referred to in both links:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/20/fisa-court-nsa-without-warrant
PGC






Thanks guitar boy,








This interview on the subject is quite interesting: 
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2013/06/19/podcast-show-112-nsa-whistleblower-goes-on-record-reveals-new-information-names-culprits/







It is very grave. The bandits get involve into a dark vicious circle. They know 
that we know, and so develop paranoid tricks aggravating their case, and their 
paranoïa, etc. All this is done to defend the top of a pyramidal corrupted (and 
international) clan, but they take into hostage a large part of the middle 
class and what subsist of democracy. 


They got power thanks to alcohol and then marijuana prohibition, but it is also 
their fatal error, because the lies become obvious.


Now, to survive they have to control the net, but that is just impossible. They 
are doomed, but they will hurt a lot in the meantime.


Bruno












Jason


 











 






The US government is doing the dictator trick (NDAA 12, NDAA 13). Those are not 
just non-constitutional they are anti-constitutional.


The human rights applies to all humans, or they lost their meaning.


The private life has to be respected for all humans.


It seems clear to me that prohibition has succeeded in putting bandits into 
power, which makes legal or illegal things only for special interest.


Health should be separated from the state, like religion. Free competition has 
to be allowed among all art of helping others, and nobody can pretend for you 
what is good to you.


&- Except if YOU require the community to PAY for the curing of YOUR sicknesses 
(maybe caused by YOUR own negligence) e.g. emphysema etc. by smoking.  







I personally disagree with this. But it is out of topic. 














Some people do money on fears and catastrophes. The war on drug is a golden 
mine for bandits and terrorists.
After the NDAA 12 I am afraid that the war on terror begins to look to me 
suspiciously like the war on drug. 


The notion legal/illegal must be relativized when the evidences add that the 
government don't play with the rules.


&- There is no "WAR ON TERROR" - nor ON DRUGS. There are 'efforts' and 'lies'. 
Against CERTAIN aspects. 







The term "war on drug" has been introduced by Nixon, and exploited by Reagan, 
and there is a "war on drugs", like there are many people sent in jail for non 
violent crime related to possession of marijuana. 
There is a "War on terror", since Bush junior. 


Since the start, the marijuana problem is a construct. the proof of a danger 
have all been debunked, each time.
But today we know that real dangerous drug, when prohibited, become much more 
dangerous, as they will be sold by criminals who will target the kids and the 
sick people.
















Others are accepted as 'money making' endeavours. The governments play by their 
own rules, not with rules of anybody else. Governments ar exploitative 
ensembles. 







When a governments lies systematically on a subject, it means they defend 
special interests, and not the interest of those who elected it, that hurts 
everybody.


Bruno










 




Bruno




&- John M 














Brent
 





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