On 16 Jul 2013, at 17:29, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com
> wrote:
On Friday, July 12, 2013 10:49:20 PM UTC-4, Jason wrote:
I think functionalism (or more specifically, computationalism) is
the
currently leading theory of mind among cognitive scientists and
philosophers. It is neither a materialistic, eliminativist,
dualist, nor
idealist conception of mind.
Why isn't it dualist? You have the simulator (arithmetic truth,
localized
arbitrarily by spontaneous/inevitable Turing machine), and the
simulated (an
emergent non-arithmetic presence which appears magically within the
simulation, for no reason).
Why isn't it idealist? Can computation be separated from ideal
principles?
I think that most who subscribe to comp do so in an eliminativist
way.
Consciousness is seen as an epiphenomenon of unconscious
computations.
Maybe you're right, but I think they are confusing comp with a form of
materialism where you just substitute equations for Turing machines.
Bruno's UDA seems to reduce this idea ad absurdum.
My personal and current bet is that everything
But what everything? What does exist? Or what do you assume at the
start. With comp 0 exists, and if x exists s(x) exists, and nothing
more than that need to "exist" in the ontological sense. The laws of
addition and mutiplication are enough to define the dreams, and
consciousness and matter are dream appearance (plausibly "true" for
consciousness", and "probable" for the physical expectations.
is conscious to begin
with (i.e consciousness is the fundamental stuff).
But consciousness is not a stuff, and ... well ... it might be as
fundamental as arithmetical truth minus epsilon ...
Comp -- or
Russell's theory of nothing -- are just ways to explain why I perceive
the sort of stuff I perceive. I don't think all this is terribly
incompatible with your views, actually.
Craig *assumes* some physical reality, so it can't work with comp.
Bruno
Telmo.
As for Relativity, I don't really know what it can mean other than
a context
of sensory awareness in which one phenomenon is felt, seen, or
otherwise
experienced as being 'related' in some way. Relativity is already
perception, or it is nothing.
Thanks,
Craig
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