On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Chris de Morsella <[email protected]>wrote
> >>> The computer requires a substrate in which to operate upon -- the CPU >>> chips for example are what our computers operate on. I know of no computer >>> that does not require this external structured environment >>> >> >> The human requires a substrate in which to operate upon -- the brain >> for example is what our human minds operate on. I know of no human that >> does not require this external structured environment. >> > > Yes… and? > And you tell me, those are your ideas not mine. I don't see the relevance but I thought you did. > **** > > >>> Every computer in existence requires external enabling hardware. >> > >>Every human in existence requires external enabling hardware. > > > > Yes but humans are not universal computing machines, > If we're not universal then we are provincial computing machines. Do you really think this strengthens your case concerning the superiority of humans? > if indeed we are machines. > We are either cuckoo clocks or roulette wheels, take your pick. > > Do we know enough about how our brains work and are structured to the > level that we would need to in order to be able to answer that question > with any degree of certainty? > Yes absolutely! I can say with no fear of contradiction that things in the brain happen for a reason or they do not happen for a reason. > I was referring to the hypothesized deterministic universe, in which > everything that has happened can be computed from the initial state and has > followed on from that original set of conditions > Everything in modern physics and mathematics says that determinism is false, but who cares, we were talking about intelligence and biological minds and computer minds; what does the truth of falsehood of determinism have to do with the price of eggs? John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
