On 30 September 2013 14:26, Russell Standish <li...@hpcoders.com.au> wrote:

> I'm complete missing your point here??? The self-other distinction is a
> 1p thing, not part of physics at all. There are no persons in
> physics. Even when talking about the self-other distinction in (say)
> bacteria, it is our modelling that makes the bacteria a distinct
> system from its environment. Physical interactions reach through the
> system boundary as though it weren't there.

it's far more likely that I'm missing the point. Maybe if I try to
explicate my point, such as it is, it will be more obvious what I'm

I can't see how this relates to free will in a way that is different from,
say, tossing a coin to make decisions. If the point is simply that the
source of randomness is inside the physical structure involved. rather than
external, how does that stop it being a "slave to randomness" ? I could
(poetically) call a geiger counter a slave to randomness even if the
radioactive source it was measuring happened to be inside it.

Sorry. Obivously I've missed the point big time.

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