On 17 Oct 2013, at 18:07, Bruno Marchal wrote:

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On 17 Oct 2013, at 08:04, chris peck wrote:Also, in what way could uncertainty be anything other thansubjective?The uncertainty is objective (indeed provable) but it bears on setof alternative *subjective* experiences. It is an objectiveprobability on subjective experiences, not to be confused with the(mathematical) notion of subjective probability (which is Bayesianprobability). They are related, but are different notions.To insist, I use "first person indeterminacy" instead of subjectiveindeterminacy, because there is a notion of subjective probability(Bayesian probability) which is not related with the objectiveindeterminacy *on* the subjective experiences possible in the self-duplication (comp) or self-superposition (Everett QM)As many pointed out, self-duplication and self-superposition leads,in theoretical protocols, to equivalent phenomenological experiences.Chris, you have not answered the question where you are duplicatedinto 2^(16180 * 10000) * (60 * 90) * 24.I multiply you 24 times per second (24) during 1h30 (60 * 90), intoas many copies can be sent in front of one of the 2^(16180 * 10000)possible images on a screen with 16180 * 10000 pixels, which can beblack or white each.Put in another way, I make you (from the 3p view) seensimultaneously all black and white "movies".The question is what do you expect to live as an experience, thatyou will certainly have (as we assume comp).***You can also answer the corresponding following feasible (in nearfutures) experiences (assuming QM). I use a screen where the2^(16180 * 10000) * (60 * 90) * 24 pixels are quantum devicesmeasuring, in the {0>, 1>} base, the state of a photon prepared inthe 0> + 1> state, and such that if the device measure 1> it makesthe pixel white, and if it measures 0>, it makes the pixel black.

I meant of course (16180 * 10000) devices! That's the quantum pixels.

`(not 2^(16180 * 10000) * (60 * 90) * 24, which is the number of`

`movies).`

`Hope you rectify such kind of mistakes ... Sorry. (wrong cut, wrong`

`paste, that happens when flies enter the teleportation machine ... :)`

Bruno

What do you expect to see if you were looking at such a screen? Bruno http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ --You received this message because you are subscribed to the GoogleGroups "Everything List" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

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