Craig: I don't think that is actually possible. The intellect can conceive
of monotonous bliss, but that does not mean that is the way that bliss
could work. A bliss that you cannot escape from is ultimately a prison. Our
understanding of sensation points to relation of contrasts, not to
mechanical absolutes. Feelings are living responses to meaningful
conditions. We quickly adapt to euphoria, build a tolerance, become bored.
There may not be any such thing as a bliss which cannot fade into misery
eventually. If there were, I think it would constitute a kind of universal
halting, just as strong addiction can suspend normal social functions.
Richard: Sounds like nirvana
On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com>wrote:
> On Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:08:14 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote:
>> On 10/20/2013 3:53 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>> If this was possible, wouldn't you choose it? If not, why not?
>> I have a recurring similar discussion with a friend: suppose you could
>> be put in a capsule on life support and given a steady supply of a
>> drug that makes you feel pure bliss for the rest of your natural life.
>> Would you agree? If not, why not?
>> Nietzshce would say, because human motivation is the will to power, the
>> satisfaction of accomplishment, creativity - not bliss or pleasure.ï¿½ Which
>> makes sense from an evolutionary viewpoint.ï¿½ People (and other animals)
>> will risk and suffer and sacrifice in order to procreate.ï¿½ Freud saw this
>> as the most basis drive.
> I guess the conceit would be that this pleasure would simulate experiences
> of accomplishment, creativity, etc. Interestingly enough, part of the
> effect of cannabis seems to include an exaggeration of accomplishment which
> relates to alleviating boredom. The childlike fascination with mundane
> details and the heightening of minor errands to seem like Ulysses-like
> odysseys has both profound and silly implications. Who is to say, after
> all, that driving to the store to get some Doritos isn't an odyssey?
> There does seem to be a self-limiting feature of cannabis though, as
> eventually one's own sloth can become the most obvious wonder to meditate
> on. This I attribute to the transparency of sense to the universe at large.
> Eventually illusions and simulations are revealed. Not because of any
> Pollyanna law of truth in the universe, but because representations are not
> whole. Experiences which are not grounded in the absolute are facades which
> inevitably reveal their seams under some condition of 'light' over time.
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