On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:12 PM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 17 November 2013 08:36, Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com> wrote:
>>
>> No, I am concerned that the global warming scare can be exploited to
>> convince the people to relinquish more of its freedoms to the
>> government.
>>
> You mean the people still have some freedoms to relinquish?

Yes, most do. Some don't. Ask Nadia Tolokonnikova, who had the idea of
confronting a total state:
http://news.rapgenius.com/Nadia-tolokonnikova-open-letter-on-hunger-strike-lyrics

> The government doesn't need global warming, they've done very nicely out of
> the "war on terror".

Yes, you could have said the same before with the "war on drugs".

> And what is this straw man about giving governments more power? They don't
> need more power, they need to divert some of the current massive subsidies
> away from the oil industry into renewables.

I'm fine with this -- although I would prefer no subsidising at all,
and letting real competition do its thing. But if they have to
subsidise someone, the oil industry definitely doesn't need it.

> Not rocket science. They need to
> stop being controlled by a certain sector of the economy.

I agree with the goal. I also believe that the only way to achieve
this is to reduce the scope of the government, given that the
government has abused and misused every single power that it has
obtained so far.

> How does that give
> them more power over the average person than they have already acquired by
> (in the case of the USA) rewriting the constitution to disallow free speech,
> and to allow unlimited surveillance?

We don't have a global tax system yet, for example. The advantage of
my plan is that it also addresses these issues.

Telmo.

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