> OK.  But in that case I don't see any reason to think 'life' or 'the 
> universe' has any purpose.
> 
> Brent
> The more we learn about the universe the more it seems pointless.
>    --- Steven Weinberg
Perhaps that is why we need to explore and evaluate the 'divinely revealed / 
inspired' books, in search of the point and purpose. 
There is too much 'precision-engineering' and 'order' in the observable / 
measurable 'chaos' to be 'self-evolved'. 
If there is a God behind all this, then perhaps there is much more we do not 
know about than just dark matter. 

Samiya 

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On 26-Nov-2013, at 9:51 AM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 11/25/2013 7:35 PM, LizR wrote:
>> On 26 November 2013 15:31, meekerdb <[email protected]>             wrote:
>>> All things I do.  
>>> 
>>> So why does purpose presuppose something like God?  In fact I don't see 
>>> that something like God could add or subtract from my purposes - although 
>>> He might affect my methods and whether or not I realized my purposes.
>> Because we were talking about the purpose of life, not the purposes of 
>> living beings.  For life to have a purpose, one must assume that it (or the 
>> universe) has been designed to fulfill some function. At least that is what 
>> (imho) it would mean for life or the universe to have a purpose.
> 
> OK.  But in that case I don't see any reason to think 'life' or 'the 
> universe' has any purpose.
> 
> Brent
> The more we learn about the universe the more it seems pointless.
>    --- Steven Weinberg
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