On 11/25/2013 3:59 PM, LizR wrote:
On 26 November 2013 12:32, Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com
On 25 November 2013 23:17, Alberto G. Corona <agocor...@gmail.com
> 2013/11/25 Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com
>> On 25 November 2013 12:35:50 am AEDT, Samiya Illias wrote:
>> Bruno asks: "Should we search, or not, for a reason behind the physical
>> We must, otherwise this life itself doesn't make any sense. There has to
>> be a purpose, and there has to be some sort of an outcome.
>> But why can't life lack sense and purpose? What logical or empirical law
>> would that break?
> You implicitly are saying:
> 1) The only and certain purpose is to act according with the laws. So
> is a purpose, although not personal purpose
> 2)These laws are ultimate causes and conform the matter, make it be, so as
> such, They are beyond and prior to nature, that is, They are sobrenatural.
> 3)All the Laws are known.
I'm saying that there is no logical reason why there should be any
purpose to life. What "purpose" means is pretty vague but I take it as
something over and above your (1). Atheists may find "purpose" in,
say, living a happy life or contributing to society, but there is no
logical reason for those things to happen either.
A purpose to life presupposes something like God. Only sentient beings have purposes, at
least if the word is being used in its generally accepted sense. Wiktionary gives...
1. An object <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/object> to be reached
<http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/reach>; a target
<http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/target>; an aim
a goal <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/goal>.
2. A result that is desired; an intention
3. The act of intending <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/intend> to do something;
resolution <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/resolution>; determination
4. The subject <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/subject> of discourse
<http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/discourse>; the point at issue
5. The reason <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/reason> for which something is
the reason it is done in a particular way.
All things I do.
So why does purpose presuppose something like God? In fact I don't see that something
like God could add or subtract from my purposes - although He might affect my methods and
whether or not I realized my purposes.
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