2013/11/29 Samiya Illias <[email protected]>

> I understand that so many deities and faith-systems and all the myths and
> fantasies in them easily put off any thinking mind. Yet, the more we
> discover, the closer we get to theorizing about everything, the more
> difficult it is to believe that everything just happens on its own.
>

And how is it easier for a god to happen on its own.... it is as absurd,
between the two, god hypothesis is just a gap of explanation and the
easiest to dismiss.

Quentin


> We may not be able to describe or imagine God, but it is also not possible
> to honestly dismiss a existence of a Deity!
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 6:26 AM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> But if *everything's *holy... well, you know the rest.
>>
>>
>> On 29 November 2013 14:02, Platonist Guitar Cowboy <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think size/length of the list matters much, lol!
>>>
>>> Crazy Ginsberg's list was shorter and he and his publishers apparently
>>> see reason for them to exist:
>>>
>>> *Footnote to Howl*
>>>  *By Allen Ginsberg
>>> <http://www.poetryfoundation.org/bio/allen-ginsberg> *
>>>
>>>
>>> Holy! Holy! Holy! Holy! Holy! Holy! Holy! Holy! Holy! Holy! Holy! Holy!
>>> Holy! Holy! Holy!
>>>  The world is holy! The soul is holy! The skin is holy! The nose is
>>> holy! The tongue and cock and hand and asshole holy!
>>>  Everything is holy! everybody’s holy! everywhere is holy! everyday is
>>> in eternity! Everyman’s an angel!
>>>  The bum’s as holy as the seraphim! the madman is holy as you my soul
>>> are holy!
>>>  The typewriter is holy the poem is holy the voice is holy the hearers
>>> are holy the ecstasy is holy!
>>>  Holy Peter holy Allen holy Solomon holy Lucien holy Kerouac holy Huncke
>>> holy Burroughs holy Cassady holy the unknown buggered and suffering beggars
>>> holy the hideous human angels!
>>>  Holy my mother in the insane asylum! Holy the cocks of the grandfathers
>>> of Kansas!
>>>  Holy the groaning saxophone! Holy the bop apocalypse! Holy the
>>> jazzbands marijuana hipsters peace peyote pipes & drums!
>>>  Holy the solitudes of skyscrapers and pavements! Holy the cafeterias
>>> filled with the millions! Holy the mysterious rivers of tears under the
>>> streets!
>>>  Holy the lone juggernaut! Holy the vast lamb of the middleclass! Holy
>>> the crazy shepherds of rebellion! Who digs Los Angeles IS Los Angeles!
>>>  Holy New York Holy San Francisco Holy Peoria & Seattle Holy Paris Holy
>>> Tangiers Holy Moscow Holy Istanbul!
>>>  Holy time in eternity holy eternity in time holy the clocks in space
>>> holy the fourth dimension holy the fifth International holy the Angel in
>>> Moloch!
>>>  Holy the sea holy the desert holy the railroad holy the locomotive holy
>>> the visions holy the hallucinations holy the miracles holy the eyeball holy
>>> the abyss!
>>>  Holy forgiveness! mercy! charity! faith! Holy! Ours! bodies! suffering!
>>> magnanimity!
>>>  Holy the supernatural extra brilliant intelligent kindness of the soul!
>>>
>>>
>>> *Berkeley 1955*
>>>
>>>  I believe both Brent and Allen. And the Sun... Dunno much about their
>>> existence though. PGC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 1:03 AM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 29 November 2013 09:19, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I can conceive of (with apologies to H. L. Mencken), Agdistis or
>>>>> Angdistis, Ah Puch, Ahura Mazda, Alberich, Allah, Amaterasu, An, Anansi,
>>>>> Anat, Andvari, Anshar, Anu, Aphrodite, Apollo, Apsu, Ares, Artemis,
>>>>> Asclepius, Athena, Athirat, Athtart, Atlas, Baal, Ba Xian, Bacchus, 
>>>>> Balder,
>>>>> Bast, Bellona, Bergelmir, Bes, Bixia Yuanjin, Bragi, Brahma, Brent, 
>>>>> Brigit,
>>>>> Camaxtli, Ceres, Ceridwen, Cernunnos, Chac, Chalchiuhtlicue, Charun,
>>>>> Chemosh, Cheng-huang, Clapton, Cybele, Dagon, Damkina (Dumkina), Davlin,
>>>>> Dawn, Demeter, Diana, Di Cang, Dionysus, Ea, El, Enki, Enlil, Eos, Epona,
>>>>> Ereskigal, Farbauti, Fenrir, Forseti, Fortuna, Freya, Freyr, Frigg, Gaia,
>>>>> Ganesha, Ganga, Garuda, Gauri, Geb, Geong Si, Guanyin, Hades, Hanuman,
>>>>> Hathor, Hecate (Hekate), Helios, Heng-o (Chang-o), Hephaestus, Hera,
>>>>> Hermes, Hestia, Hod, Hoderi, Hoori, Horus, Hotei, Huitzilopochtli,
>>>>> Hsi-Wang-Mu, Hygeia, Inanna, Inti, Iris, Ishtar, Isis, Ixtab, Izanaki,
>>>>> Izanami, Jesus, Juno, Jehovah, Jupiter, Juturna, Kagutsuchi, Kartikeya,
>>>>> Khepri, Ki, Kingu, Kinich Ahau, Kishar, Krishna, Kuan-yin, Kukulcan,
>>>>> Kvasir, Lakshmi, Leto, Liza, Loki, Lugh, Luna, Magna Mater, Maia, Marduk,
>>>>> Mars, Mazu, Medb, Mercury, Mimir, Min, Minerva, Mithras, Morrigan, Mot,
>>>>> Mummu, Muses, Nammu, Nanna, Nanna (Norse), Nanse, Neith, Nemesis, 
>>>>> Nephthys,
>>>>> Neptune, Nergal, Ninazu, Ninhurzag, Nintu, Ninurta, Njord, Nugua, Nut,
>>>>> Odin, Ohkuninushi, Ohyamatsumi, Orgelmir, Osiris, Ostara, Pan, Parvati,
>>>>> Phaethon, Phoebe, Phoebus Apollo, Pilumnus, Poseidon, Quetzalcoatl, Rama,
>>>>> Re, RheaSabazius, Sarasvati, Selene, Shiva, Seshat, Seti (Set), Shamash,
>>>>> Shapsu, Shen Yi, Shiva, Shu, Si-Wang-Mu, Sin, Sirona, Sol, Surya, Susanoh,
>>>>> Tawaret, Tefnut, Tezcatlipoca, Thanatos, Thor, Thoth, Tiamat, Tianhou,
>>>>> Tlaloc, Tonatiuh, Toyo-Uke-Bime, Tyche, Tyr, Utu, Uzume, Vediovis, Venus,
>>>>> Vesta, Vishnu, Volturnus, Vulcan, Xipe, Xi Wang-mu, Xochipilli,
>>>>> Xochiquetzal, Yam, Yarikh, YHWH, Ymir, Yu-huang, Yum Kimil and Zeus. But I
>>>>> see no reason to believe any of them exist.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hey, what's that about Amaterasu? She obviously exists!
>>>>
>>>> (Admittedly we tend to call her "the Sun" nowadays :-)
>>>>
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