How is it 'easiest to dismiss'? 

Samiya 

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On 29-Nov-2013, at 12:32 PM, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]> wrote:

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> 2013/11/29 Samiya Illias <[email protected]>
>> I understand that so many deities and faith-systems and all the myths and 
>> fantasies in them easily put off any thinking mind. Yet, the more we 
>> discover, the closer we get to theorizing about everything, the more 
>> difficult it is to believe that everything just happens on its own.
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> And how is it easier for a god to happen on its own.... it is as absurd, 
> between the two, god hypothesis is just a gap of explanation and the easiest 
> to dismiss.
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> Quentin
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>> We may not be able to describe or imagine God, but it is also not possible 
>> to honestly dismiss a existence of a Deity! 
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>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 6:26 AM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> But if everything's holy... well, you know the rest.
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>>> On 29 November 2013 14:02, Platonist Guitar Cowboy 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I don't think size/length of the list matters much, lol!
>>>> 
>>>> Crazy Ginsberg's list was shorter and he and his publishers apparently see 
>>>> reason for them to exist:
>>>> 
>>>> Footnote to Howl
>>>> By Allen Ginsberg
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Holy! Holy! Holy! Holy! Holy! Holy! Holy! Holy! Holy! Holy! Holy! Holy! 
>>>> Holy! Holy! Holy!
>>>> The world is holy! The soul is holy! The skin is holy! The nose is holy! 
>>>> The tongue and cock and hand and asshole holy!
>>>> Everything is holy! everybody’s holy! everywhere is holy! everyday is in 
>>>> eternity! Everyman’s an angel!
>>>> The bum’s as holy as the seraphim! the madman is holy as you my soul are 
>>>> holy!
>>>> The typewriter is holy the poem is holy the voice is holy the hearers are 
>>>> holy the ecstasy is holy!
>>>> Holy Peter holy Allen holy Solomon holy Lucien holy Kerouac holy Huncke 
>>>> holy Burroughs holy Cassady holy the unknown buggered and suffering 
>>>> beggars holy the hideous human angels!
>>>> Holy my mother in the insane asylum! Holy the cocks of the grandfathers of 
>>>> Kansas!
>>>> Holy the groaning saxophone! Holy the bop apocalypse! Holy the jazzbands 
>>>> marijuana hipsters peace peyote pipes & drums!
>>>> Holy the solitudes of skyscrapers and pavements! Holy the cafeterias 
>>>> filled with the millions! Holy the mysterious rivers of tears under the 
>>>> streets!
>>>> Holy the lone juggernaut! Holy the vast lamb of the middleclass! Holy the 
>>>> crazy shepherds of rebellion! Who digs Los Angeles IS Los Angeles!
>>>> Holy New York Holy San Francisco Holy Peoria & Seattle Holy Paris Holy 
>>>> Tangiers Holy Moscow Holy Istanbul!
>>>> Holy time in eternity holy eternity in time holy the clocks in space holy 
>>>> the fourth dimension holy the fifth International holy the Angel in Moloch!
>>>> Holy the sea holy the desert holy the railroad holy the locomotive holy 
>>>> the visions holy the hallucinations holy the miracles holy the eyeball 
>>>> holy the abyss!
>>>> Holy forgiveness! mercy! charity! faith! Holy! Ours! bodies! suffering! 
>>>> magnanimity!
>>>> Holy the supernatural extra brilliant intelligent kindness of the soul!
>>>>                                                                            
>>>>                                  Berkeley 1955
>>>> 
>>>> I believe both Brent and Allen. And the Sun... Dunno much about their 
>>>> existence though. PGC
>>>> 
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>>>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 1:03 AM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> On 29 November 2013 09:19, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I can conceive of (with apologies to H. L. Mencken), Agdistis or 
>>>>>> Angdistis, Ah Puch, Ahura Mazda, Alberich, Allah, Amaterasu, An, Anansi, 
>>>>>> Anat, Andvari, Anshar, Anu, Aphrodite, Apollo, Apsu, Ares, Artemis, 
>>>>>> Asclepius, Athena, Athirat, Athtart, Atlas, Baal, Ba Xian, Bacchus, 
>>>>>> Balder, Bast, Bellona, Bergelmir, Bes, Bixia Yuanjin, Bragi, Brahma, 
>>>>>> Brent, Brigit, Camaxtli, Ceres, Ceridwen, Cernunnos, Chac, 
>>>>>> Chalchiuhtlicue, Charun, Chemosh, Cheng-huang, Clapton, Cybele, Dagon, 
>>>>>> Damkina (Dumkina), Davlin, Dawn, Demeter, Diana, Di Cang, Dionysus, Ea, 
>>>>>> El, Enki, Enlil, Eos, Epona, Ereskigal, Farbauti, Fenrir, Forseti, 
>>>>>> Fortuna, Freya, Freyr, Frigg, Gaia, Ganesha, Ganga, Garuda, Gauri, Geb, 
>>>>>> Geong Si, Guanyin, Hades, Hanuman, Hathor, Hecate (Hekate), Helios, 
>>>>>> Heng-o (Chang-o), Hephaestus, Hera, Hermes, Hestia, Hod, Hoderi, Hoori, 
>>>>>> Horus, Hotei,     Huitzilopochtli, Hsi-Wang-Mu, Hygeia, Inanna, Inti, 
>>>>>> Iris, Ishtar, Isis, Ixtab, Izanaki, Izanami, Jesus, Juno, Jehovah, 
>>>>>> Jupiter, Juturna, Kagutsuchi, Kartikeya, Khepri, Ki, Kingu, Kinich Ahau, 
>>>>>> Kishar, Krishna, Kuan-yin, Kukulcan, Kvasir, Lakshmi, Leto, Liza, Loki, 
>>>>>> Lugh, Luna, Magna Mater, Maia, Marduk, Mars, Mazu, Medb, Mercury, Mimir, 
>>>>>> Min, Minerva, Mithras, Morrigan, Mot, Mummu, Muses, Nammu, Nanna, Nanna 
>>>>>> (Norse), Nanse, Neith, Nemesis, Nephthys, Neptune, Nergal, Ninazu, 
>>>>>> Ninhurzag, Nintu, Ninurta, Njord, Nugua, Nut, Odin, Ohkuninushi, 
>>>>>> Ohyamatsumi, Orgelmir, Osiris, Ostara, Pan, Parvati, Phaethon, Phoebe, 
>>>>>> Phoebus Apollo, Pilumnus, Poseidon, Quetzalcoatl, Rama, Re, 
>>>>>> RheaSabazius, Sarasvati, Selene, Shiva, Seshat, Seti (Set), Shamash, 
>>>>>> Shapsu, Shen Yi, Shiva, Shu, Si-Wang-Mu, Sin, Sirona, Sol, Surya, 
>>>>>> Susanoh, Tawaret, Tefnut, Tezcatlipoca, Thanatos, Thor, Thoth, Tiamat, 
>>>>>> Tianhou, Tlaloc, Tonatiuh, Toyo-Uke-Bime, Tyche, Tyr, Utu, Uzume, 
>>>>>> Vediovis, Venus, Vesta, Vishnu, Volturnus, Vulcan, Xipe, Xi Wang-mu, 
>>>>>> Xochipilli, Xochiquetzal, Yam, Yarikh, YHWH, Ymir, Yu-huang, Yum Kimil 
>>>>>> and Zeus. But I see no reason to believe any of them exist.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hey, what's that about Amaterasu? She obviously exists!
>>>>> 
>>>>> (Admittedly we tend to call her "the Sun" nowadays :-)
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