We're just guessing on this Samiya, or our ancestors, really. What God may be, 
is may not exactly fit the Omni,characterizations. Moreover, being a practical, 
American, we have to know, in a self-interested way, what good/benefit does 
knowing about God do for us. A ridiculous statement, and yet, We the Who in 
Whoville, to quote Dr. Suess-Geisel, need to know.


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From: Samiya Illias <samiyaill...@gmail.com>
To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Dec 2, 2013 12:13 am
Subject: Re: How can a grown man be an atheist ?



This is strange! What 'theism' it is if it limits God? We believe that God is 
the Reality, the Prime Originator, the Sustainer, and the Final Goal. 
Everything is as God wills and allows it to be. 

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On 02-Dec-2013, at 4:13 AM, Jesse Mazer <laserma...@gmail.com> wrote:



Most theistic philosophers and theologians who have considered the issue agree 
that God did not create the laws of math and logic, and does not have the power 
to alter them (or any other "necessary" truths, which for theists might include 
things like moral rules, or qualities of God such as omnipotence). Do you think 
the Mandelbrot set, or any other piece of pure mathematics, functions without a 
government, or are mathematical rules themselves a form of government even if 
God didn't create them? Certainly most atheists now think the universe follows 
mathematical laws, and one could even adopt Max Tegmark's idea and speculate 
that our universe is just another part of the uncreated Platonic realm of 
mathematical forms.




On Sunday, December 1, 2013, Roger Clough  wrote:


How can a grown man be an atheist ?
 
An atheist is a person who believes that the universe can
function without some form of government. 
 
How silly.
 
 

Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000]
See my Leibniz site at

http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough




        
                
                                                                                
                
                
                        
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