Yes, but why are you being anthropocentric? If there can exist a physical process that is a bisimulation of the computation of the test for primeness, then the primeness is true. Otherwise, we are merely guessing, at best.
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:54 AM, Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com> wrote: > So you are arguing that doing the computations is what makes a number > prime or not? > > When does the number first become prime, is it when the first person > anywhere in the universe checks it? What about people beyond the > cosmological horizon that compute it, or what about people in hypothetical > other universes? Does the first person ever to check and verify that a > number is prime, make it prime for all people, in all universes, forever? > > Jason > > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Stephen Paul King < > stephe...@provensecure.com> wrote: > >> I do not assume that computations can occur if there are no physical >> means to implement them. My imagination that s 270 digit string is prime is >> not equivalent to actually doing the computation that tests for primeness. >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Stephen Paul King < >>> stephe...@provensecure.com> wrote: >>> >>>> No, your making the mistake of identifying a representation of a thing >>>> with the thing. The symbol 10^80 does not have 10^80 components, so to act >>>> as it is does... >>>> >>>> >>> Tell me this, is the following (270 digit) number prime: >>> >>> 332694894848329434549105787414873502606112802712440024745636803095039036420080826797726325643727533347094562684200739500429461145303257192536463211027218435305302565244506232330240506160052373297550819467601665370364223791626506805746132690937677414 >>> 846877090853919880937 >>> >>> Either it is or it isn't. 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