On 12/17/2013 11:39 AM, LizR wrote:
On 18 December 2013 07:32, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net <mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote:

    But I don't have to believe true=exists.

It seems to me this parallels your comment that the difference between "maths and matter" is that we can prove that mathematical truths are true (or words to that effect - sorry posting in haste. Hope you know what I mean!)

I think I do.

Plus existence isn't a well defined notion, altho I did have a go earlier.

I think of "exists" as relative to a domain. So there "exists" a divisor of 17 is true in arithmetic. But if "exists" is well defined that means your domain is not reality (or more precisely you can't assert that it's reality). Reality is stuff you can point to. I think this is compatible with Bruno's theory. In his theory reality is not computable and therefore is never completely definite.


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