On 20 Dec 2013, at 21:42, John Clark wrote:
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 4:30 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]>
wrote:
>>> and following duplication there is a 50% chance of finding
oneself at the intended destination
>> JOHN CLARK HATES PRONOUNS! Following duplication there is a 100%
chance Jason Resch will be at the intended destination.
> Yes, but the question is asked before the duplication.
Then why did it include the words "following duplication" in the
above?
You did not quote me.
Then, I understand the quote as alluding to the confirmation of the
prediction done before.
> If you say 100% for this city, the guy in the other city will
understand that he was mistaken,
For a logician you sure aren't very logical. If today I predict that
tomorrow a green object will be found in Washington and tomorrow you
show me a red stop sign that you found in Washington does that
provide enough information to prove that my prediction of yesterday
was wrong?
No. But that's a different experience. if you predict now that you
will see Washington after pushing on the button and opening the door,
and that after pushing the button and opening the door you (the one
in front of me to who I ask the question in Moscow) see Moscow, that
will refute (from his 1p, as the question conerns the 1p) his
prediction.
>>> If someone creates a copy of you somewhere, there is a 50%
chance you will find yourself in that alternate location.
>> JOHN CLARK HATES PRONOUNS! If someone creates a copy of Jason
Resch somewhere, there is a 100% chance Jason Resch will find Jason
Resch to be in that alternate location.
> After the duplication. Not before
Obviously after the duplication!! Before the duplication or
teleportation nothing unusual has happened yet so there is a 0%
chance that Jason Resch will find Jason Resch to be in a alternate
location.
So before I bought the quantum lottery ticket, there is 100% choice
that I will win?
Correct from the 3p view: I do win in some universe.
Incorrect from the QM statistics: I do lose in most universes.
So here, you are oscillating between a confusion between before/after
doing the duplication and the 1p/3p confusion.
The fact that you have to make a confusion at all cost, illustrate
well the inconsistencies you need to refute step 3.
bruno
John K Clark
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