On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 11:40 PM, Edgar L. Owen <edgaro...@att.net> wrote:
> Replying to Liz and Jason in a new topic as they raised the important
> topic of the source of randomness that deserves a separate topic.
> As I explain in my book on Reality, all randomness is quantum. There
> simply is no true classical level randomness.
Have you gotten to step 3 in the UDA yet? It explains how true randomness
can emerge without assuming QM.
There is plenty of non-computability which is often mistaken for randomness
> but all true randomness at the classical level percolates up from the
> quantum level.
> At the fundamental computational level all computations are exact. However
> the way space can emerge and be dimensionalized from these computations is
> random which is the source of all randomness. This quantum level randomness
> can either be damped out or amplified up to the Classical level depending
> on the information structures involved.
> To use Liz's example of how do computers generate random numbers, they
> don't in themselves. As Jason points out they draw on sources of (quantum)
> randomness from the environment, but the code the computer itself uses
> contains no randomness as the whole point of digital devices is to
> completely submerge any source of randomness because that would pollute the
> code and/or data.
> Of course eventually everything, including computers, is subject to
> randomness and fails....
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