List: Is there a 'well' acceptable definition for "R A N D O M"? (my non-Indo-European mothertongue has no word expressing the meaning - if I got it right. My 2nd mothertongue (German) calls it "exbeliebig" = kind of: whatever I like) My position as far as I got the right semantic meaning would be: non-explainable by circumstances leading to it, what is an agnostic marvel since in the next second I may learn HOW to explain and that would be the end of randomity. I accept one (nonscientific?) random-use: in math puzzles the "take any number" - however many of these are joking. I had some discussion with Russell and he was willing to molify his brisk 'random' into a 'conditional' random within the circumstances of the topic.
John Mikes On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 11:40 PM, Edgar L. Owen <[email protected]> wrote: > Replying to Liz and Jason in a new topic as they raised the important > topic of the source of randomness that deserves a separate topic. > > As I explain in my book on Reality, all randomness is quantum. There > simply is no true classical level randomness. There is plenty of > non-computability which is often mistaken for randomness but all true > randomness at the classical level percolates up from the quantum level. > > At the fundamental computational level all computations are exact. However > the way space can emerge and be dimensionalized from these computations is > random which is the source of all randomness. This quantum level randomness > can either be damped out or amplified up to the Classical level depending > on the information structures involved. > > To use Liz's example of how do computers generate random numbers, they > don't in themselves. As Jason points out they draw on sources of (quantum) > randomness from the environment, but the code the computer itself uses > contains no randomness as the whole point of digital devices is to > completely submerge any source of randomness because that would pollute the > code and/or data. > > Of course eventually everything, including computers, is subject to > randomness and fails.... > > Edgar > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
