On 29 Dec 2013, at 21:29, LizR wrote:

Not quite, violations of Bell's inequality can also be explained by time symmetry (Huw Price and John Bell, private communications).

+ very special initial boundary conditions, which leads to a selection principle in the MW. It is a bit like in Bohm, except that the potential is replaced by boundary conditions. Bell was opposed to many- world, and even, before Aspect, he predicted that nature would not violate its inequality. Also, those boundary condition leads to a simulation of an Heinsenberg cut, as all branches must continue to exist at some level, to get the interference effect, and not above that level to get a physical reality unique. This is logically consistent, I can agree, but seems more ad hoc compared to postulate that QM is "universal".

We do have something similar with comp. We cannot really prove that the numbers cannot conspire for making a physical reality unique. They might even conspire to make *you* unique. That would be depressing, no? I would be a zombie!

Bruno





On 30 December 2013 09:05, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Edgar L. Owen <edgaro...@att.net> wrote

>>  Are faster-than-light influences involved?

>  No.

That means you think things are local.

>> 2. When it is determined whether or not Schrodinger's cat is alive or dead?

>> The cat is always either dead or alive. It's just a matter of someone making a measurement to find out.

That means you think things are realistic, and that means I know for a fact your thinking is wrong, not crazy but wrong. We know from experiment that Bell's inequality is violated, and that means that locality or realism or both MUST be wrong. And yes I know that's crazy, but complain to the universe not to me. Your ideas are not crazy, and that is exactly why they're wrong. If I were making a universe I'd make it your way too, but unfortunately Yehowah got the job not me.

  John K Clark




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