On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 3:05 PM, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Edgar L. Owen <edgaro...@att.net> wrote
>
> >>  Are faster-than-light influences involved?
>>>
>>
>> >  No.
>>
>
> That means you think things are local.
>
> >> 2. When it is determined whether or not Schrodinger's cat is alive or
>>> dead?
>>>
>>
>> >>  The cat is always either dead or alive. It's just a matter of someone
>> making a measurement to find out.
>>
>
> That means you think things are realistic, and that means  I know for a
> fact your thinking is wrong, not crazy but wrong. We know from experiment
> that Bell's inequality is violated, and that means that locality or realism
> or both MUST be wrong.
>

Or measurements are multi-valued.  MWI has both locality and realism.

Of course it is still crazy. :-)

Jason


> And yes I know that's crazy, but complain to the universe not to me. Your
> ideas are not crazy, and that is exactly why they're wrong. If I were
> making a universe I'd make it your way too, but unfortunately Yehowah got
> the job not me.
>
>   John K Clark
>
>
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