On 28 Dec 2013, at 04:08, Edgar L. Owen wrote:

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Jason, Answers to your 3 questions. 1. No.2. Determined by which observer? The cat is always either dead oralive. It's just a matter of someone making a measurement to find out.

`Then there is a collapse of the wave. I thought you disagree with`

`collapse.`

`Without collapse, if you look at a cat in the superposition dead`

`+alive, you end up yourself being described by a superposition seeing`

`a cat dead + seeing a cat alive. It is equivalent 'computationally)`

`with a self-duplication.`

Bruno

3. Of course quantum computers are possible. Simple examples alreadyexist, but fundamentally all computations take place in logicalinformation space, as I've described before in a number of posts.However I don't think the answers to these questions will help youunderstand the theory. Refer to my other topic on this group titled"Yes, my book does cover quantum reality", or refer to the bookitself, or I can explain further....Edgar On Friday, December 27, 2013 9:17:52 PM UTC-5, Jason wrote:On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 8:19 PM, Edgar L. Owen <edga...@att.net>wrote:All,I'm starting a new topic on wavefunctions in this reply to Jasonbecause he brings up a very important issue.The usual interpretation of wavefunctions are that particles are'spread out' in the fixed common pre-existing space that quantumtheory mistakenly assumes, that they are superpostions of states inthis space.However in my book on Reality in Part III, Elementals I proposeanother interpretation, namely that particles are discreteinformation entities in logical computational space, and that whatwavefunctions actually are is descriptions of how space can becomedimensionalized by decoherence events (since decoherence eventsproduce exact conserved relationships between the dimensionalvariables of interacting particles).I am not sure that I follow, but it sounds like an interesting idea.It reminds me of Ron Garret's talk, where he says metaphorically "welive in a simulation running on a quantum computer": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEaecUuEqfcThe mathematical results are exactly the same, its just a differentinterpretation.I am not sure if it is possible in any theory consistent with QM todeny completely the notion of superposition. How can the single-electron double-slit experiment be explained without the electronbeing in more than one place at the same time?I think it would help me understand your interpretation if youanswered the following questions. According to your interpretation:1. Are faster-than-light influences involved?2. When it is determined whether or not Schrodinger's cat is aliveor dead?3. Are quantum computers possible, and if so, where are all theintermediate computations performed?JasonHowever this approach that space is something that emerges fromquantum events rather than being a fixed pre-existing background toevents enables us to conceptually unify GR and QM and also resolvesall so called quantum 'paradox' as quantum processes are paradoxicalONLY with respect to the fixed pre-existing space mistakenly assumed.--You received this message because you are subscribed to the GoogleGroups "Everything List" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

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