On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Richard, > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:51 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> On 01 Jan 2014, at 21:38, meekerdb wrote: >> >> On 1/1/2014 4:42 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> snip > > >> I disagree with this. Everett did propose a new theory. It is SWE, that >> is QM without collapse. *All* interpretations of it are multi-realities. >> Everett is just QM, and the Everett branches comes from not avoiding the >> contagion of superposition, which follows from SWE linearity. The >> existence of the relative superposition is a theorem of QM. Copenhagen is >> SWE+ collapse, and this is self-contradictory or quite fuzzy (what is the >> collapse?). >> >> >> It is changing your knowledge of the wave-function - replacing some >> uncertainty with some knowledge. >> >> >> Arguably so if the comp arithmetical quantum logic fits with the observed >> quantum logic. I do appreciate Pauli and Fuchs. Where I disagree, is that >> they oppose this to Everett, but I see no reason why. In fact Everett+Fuch >> is made consistent in the many-dreams interpretation of arithmetic, >> developed by the numbers inside arithmetic. >> >> Bruno >> >> >> Bruno, you may take this as a joke. >> > But I think that quantum state selection is like selected a sperm to enter > the egg. > In the dream space the most probably staets are clustered together, > And all together, like the intelligent sperm, > The states decide which state is selected > to enter the physical world.. > > > > I know that life is hard and that spermatozoids have a lot of hard time to > convince an ovule to let it go in. But "entering the physical world" does > not make much sense to me as there are no such "reality" in my favorite > theory. What exists in arithmetic is a notion of more probable > computations/consistent extensions, and the correct description of them > must give the laws of physics, so we can test the theory. > Thanks for letting me take your metaphor as a joke, you reassure me :) > > Bruno > > But Bruno, do you agree that my metaphor is arithmetically and > scientifically possible? > Richard > > > Richard > >> >> Brent >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
