On 09 Jan 2014, at 18:29, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
Terren,
I don't find the panpsychism label useful. Mine is an entirely new
and independent theory.
The way it works starting from the beginning:
At the fundamental level reality consists only of computationally
interacting information forms made real by occurring in the reality
of being.
So you commit yourself ontologically (like a pope). It would be more
clear if you make this into an hypothesis, and clarify your notion of
being, computation, interaction, etc.
Bruno
Every form can be said to 'experience' the other forms with which it
interacts via changes in its own form. At the generic non-organismic
level I call this Xperience. In fact in this interpretation the
universe can be said to consist of Xperience only. Things and events
are a subsidiary distinction both included in the concept of
Xperience.
To answer your question in this sense a rock does Xperience the
interaction of its information forms with other information forms,
as do all information forms that make up the universe.
When it comes to organismic awareness we have a particular subset of
Xperience we call EXperience in which some of the forms that are
altered are those in that organism's internal mental simulation of
reality. These are functionally no different than feedback forms on
modern automobiles etc. that enable these devices to monitor
(Xperience) their own states except in biological systems they are
enormously more complex and detailed. The working of such biological
self-monitoring systems is what we call experience.
So organismic EXperience is simply a specialized subset of the all
pervasion phenomenon of Xperience that occurs in biological
organisms with complex self monitoring systems associated with their
internal mental simulations of the actual computational external
reality they exist within.
So everything in the universe can be said to Xperience whatever its
forms computationally interact with, but only biological information
forms can be properly said to EXperience other forms, and then they
always internally interprete and embellish that experience as some
personal variant of a classical material world, something which does
not actually exist expect in their internal mental simulations of
the true external information world.
So to categorize Xperience as to what is actually occurring we
examine the type of forms themselves to see what they actually do
rather than trying to impose arbitrary human categories upon them....
Edgar
On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 5:43:43 PM UTC-5, Terren Suydam wrote:
Edgar,
Thanks for clarifying. Your theory sounds like a spinoff of
panpsychism... would you say a rock is capable of experiencing? If
not, what is the theoretical difference between a rock and a baby
that demarcates what is capable of experiencing, and what isn't?
Terren
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Edgar L. Owen <[email protected]> wrote:
Terren,
All human babies are automatically consciousness. They are conscious
of whatever input data they have. I don't see the point of your
question which is why I didn't answer before...
Edgar
On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 2:42:24 PM UTC-5, Terren Suydam wrote:
On the contrary, I replied with a question that went unanswered.
It was a question about whether a human baby, fed a stream of
virtual sense data as in the movie The Matrix, could be considered
conscious in your theory, as you seemed to suggest that
consciousness was a property of reality, as a function somehow of
"ontological energy".
Terren
On Jan 8, 2014 1:49 PM, "Edgar L. Owen" <[email protected]> wrote:
Telmo,
Thanks for the link but see my new topic "A theory of consciousness"
of a few days ago which no one has even commented on and which is
much more reasonable and explanatory.
Edgar
On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 12:57:37 PM UTC-5, telmo_menezes wrote:
In case you haven't seen it...
http://arxiv.org/abs/1401.1219
Seems like an attempt to recover materialism, which strikes me as
somewhat unexpected from Tegmark. Am I missing something?
Cheers,
Telmo.
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