Dear Flyer,

You must be hard up for entertainment. Perhaps you should try watching the 
Matrix one more time with popcorn or try contributing something meaningful 
to the discussion? 
:-)

Edgar



On Monday, January 13, 2014 5:44:47 PM UTC-5, freqflyer07281972 wrote:
>
> Haha! Ya Liz, I think your point is very well taken. 
>
> On my part, I am finding it infinitely amusing that a guy who is so 
> obviously self-deluded and unable to grok any of the most basic criticisms 
> of his "theory" from the many textbook gedanken experiments so 
> compassionately offered by people (experiments, by the way, that are easy 
> to find in sophomore college level textbooks on physics available for free 
> on the web) on this list nevertheless feels as though what he says is 
> original and important enough to write a book on "Reality". What could this 
> guy possibly know about reality when he can't even answer in good faith 
> some of the most basic objections made against his "account"? 
>
> Oi vey! At least Roger Clough's vacuous murmurings bow in the direction of 
> greatness (Leibniz)... this guy pretends he's figured it all out for 
> himself, and his (wrong, or at least apparently indefensible) theory stands 
> alone and has no need to build upon or incorporate anything that came 
> before. 
>
> Talk about hubris... 
>
> Nevertheless, following along is very entertaining for me!!
>
> On Monday, January 13, 2014 4:46:18 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
>>
>> On 10 January 2014 07:04, Edgar L. Owen <edga...@att.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Terren,
>>>
>>> First, it will only detract, not help, to try to shoehorn my theories 
>>> into standard categories. It's an entirely new theory.
>>>
>>
>> This is fine if you are writing fiction, but in science you have to be 
>> prepared for some parts of your theory to overlap others. The definitions 
>> and categories you use, the logic and any maths that is applicable, are all 
>> derived from existing theories. What you call shoehorning is an attempt to 
>> find out what your theory actually is.
>>
>> Over and over, someone makes a comparison and is told that is what your 
>> theory is NOT. This is starting to look like "Games People Play" - I'm 
>> thinking of the one where someone says they want to do X, their friend 
>> says, "Why don't you (do something that will help you achieve X) "  to 
>> which the other person always says "Yes, but..." and comes up with some 
>> objection. So they never achieve X. In this case, we say "Why don't you 
>> give a formal definition that anyone can understand?" and you say "Don't 
>> shoehorn me - I've explained that - see my post of... it's obvious... 
>> anyone who disagrees with me is a moron..." Anything but actually achieving 
>> X, in this case a theory with a formal definition that can be critiqued. 
>> It's almost as though you only came here in the hope that everyone would 
>> say "Yes, wow, wonderful theory! Shut down CERN, this guy's got it all 
>> worked out..."
>>
>> A formal definition is needed, with defined terms, assumptions, 
>> deductions, proofs. You haven't even given a proper definition of P-time 
>> that actually makes sense yet.
>>
>> I await your hand waving tack spitting insistence that you have, or stony 
>> silence 'cos I'm only a stupid gurl as the case may be.
>>
>>

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