Alberto, Thanks for your thoughts on this issue. They make a lot of sense and I agree for the most part.
For example, the "adolescent sense of superiority" that comes with thinking you've got it all figured out is something that I myself have experienced (at times in my life when I thought I had it all worked out)... trouble is, that superiority can never be maintained for long if you are truly honest with yourself and you examine your own personal assumptions and prejudices repeatedly in a cold and objective light. This is where former certainty motivated by fresh experience becomes ossified dogma motivated out of fear. I also really appreciate your apparent awareness of the historical contingency of a lot of TOE's and the limits of our vision. Thanks for your response! On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 7:05:07 PM UTC-5, Alberto G.Corona wrote: > > " I'd like to ask a serious and honest question in good faith: what is > the place of grief and mourning given belief in one of these theories? > Is it even appropriate to grieve in a universe where "Everything > exists" and the self is simply a computation on a deeper eternal > substrate and where time is an illusion? Indeed, isn't the whole > humanistic, existentialist "point" of these theories to offer us a bit > of succor in the face of inevitable death? " > > These theories offer no relief except a vague and adolescent sense of > superiority, typical of any cult where there are people who "know" > and people who don't. But once you reject this adolescent smug and > grow your conscience of ignorance and despise the false comfort of > being in a elite of connaiseurs, then these theories become > depressing. Moreover they are probably wrong, guesses from > extrapolations of some local principles that may not work out of our > of our inmediate reality. like "less principles are better than > more", or "less complex is better than more complex". I`m talking > about the Multiverse theories or comp. Or the thermodynamic end of > the Universe. > > I personally have nightmares thinking about other "me" that die in > accident in another paralell universe. Or thinking about my daughter > suffering the same fate in some metaworld far far away. I know that > this is crazy, but your mind and mine extract lessons from what you > accept as theoretically possible. There is a theory that says that > dreams are training scenes that the mind produce to make you > accustomed to what may happen the next day. > > That is unavoidable. Your assumptions influence all your life in very > important ways. I mean all your life. The comic part is that in twenty > of fifty years, like has happened before with the theories of the > past, these theories will be looked at as outdated speculations > driven by old ideas that will be no longer in fashion, like the > exagerated worship to computers or to a certain metaphisical > assumptions. > > So my advice to myself is: Play with this crap, but don't take it > seriously. Since you CAN NOT know and will not know first causes never > ever. Therefore all is a matter and belief.. So damn you, believe in > something that offer a good teleology, at least compatible with the > human psychology, or else, if you and your people take these suicide > ad depressing theories you will have a bad life and your people will > be driven to irrelevance (and, believe me, we are in this personal and > social path to oblivion as individuals and as a civilization). > > -- > Alberto. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.