Bruno, Once again a summary of my computational universe:
The fundamental level of reality consists of pure abstract computationally evolving information in the LOGICAL (not physical, not dimensional) space or presence of reality. What exists here is NOT static arithmetic truth. What exists here is the ACTUAL computations (and nothing else) necessary and sufficient to compute the current state of the universe as science observes it and confirms it. This occurs as myriads of computations in interaction with each other. This is a dynamic active process which occurs in a common present moment. This present moment is NOT the same as clock time. Clock time and all the other measurable observable information states of the universe are the RESULTS of these fundamental computations which occur in the present moment of p-time. If clock time is the RESULTS of computations those computations MUST occur in some other type of time. That is the present moment. This process is entirely independent of human observation. It is not a matter of perspective, though obviously every extant observe will have its own perspective on and internal mental model of this process. And observers will interpret this perspective as the familiar physical dimensional world. All observers are sub-programs in this single computational reality which themselves continually computationally interact with the computations of their environments. The entire universe consists ONLY of these active computations, consists ONLY of information computationally evolving. The apparently physical classical world is how observers INTERPRET or model or simulate this information reality internally in their minds. They have evolved to do this to make it easier to compute their functioning and survival.... Thus the actual reality is not physical, dimensional or material, it consists only of actively computationally evolving pure abstract information in a logical space ONLY. Hope that makes it clearer.... Edgar Strictly speaking there is On Friday, January 24, 2014 1:17:16 PM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > Edgar, > > > On 24 Jan 2014, at 17:35, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > Bruno, > > Stop making the ridiculous claim that "there is only one computational > reality, the UD", as if yours was the only one that could even be > postulated. > > > I don't have to postulate this. It is consequence of the laws of addition, > multiplication and Church's thesis. > > > > > My computational reality is NOT the same as your 'comp', and your > conclusions obviously do not apply to mine. > > > Then I have missed your explanation. I don't find it. > > > > > I've explained mine in detail in a number of posts. > > > Can you copy and past one definition of your computational reality? > > > > > > And I don't answer the question "can we survive with an artificial brain > in my theory" because it is irrelevant sci fi fantasy with all sorts of > unstated assumptions. > > > ? > > > My theory deals with reality, not with sci fi. > > > If reality is known by you, you will have some difficulty to learn > anything. > > > > > However I've already stated the strict answer to the question as stated > and with the normal theoretical (and totally impracticable) assumptions is > 'yes, of course', > > > Ah! > > We progress. > > By saying that you can survive with an artificial brain, which I meant a > digital universal machine, you have accepted one half of the assumption. > The second half is Church thesis, which is an important assumption in > computability theory. > I have a feeling that you > ... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
