Craig,

I agree too. Makes it sound low brow and pop culturish, like some consumer 
product for housewives. But that's a good way to distinguish it from my 
computational reality.
:-)

Edgar




On Monday, February 24, 2014 8:58:19 AM UTC-5, Craig Weinberg wrote:
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> On Monday, February 24, 2014 8:16:00 AM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
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>> Craig,
>>
>> Pardon me but what does CTM stand for?
>>
>
> Computational Theory of Mind. 
>
> Someone mentioned that they are tired of the word 'Comp', and I agree. 
> Something about it I never liked. Makes it sound friendly and natural, when 
> I suspect that is neither.
>
> Craig
>  
>
>>
>> Edgar
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>>
>> On Sunday, February 23, 2014 9:55:27 AM UTC-5, Craig Weinberg wrote:
>>>
>>> This might be a more concise way of making my argument:
>>>
>>> It is my claim that CTM has overlooked the necessity to describe the 
>>> method, mechanism, or arithmetic principle by which computations are 
>>> encountered.
>>>
>>> My hypothesis, drawn from both direct human experience as well as 
>>> experience with technological devices, is that "everything which is counted 
>>> must first be encountered". Extending this dictum, I propose that 
>>>
>>> 1. There is nothing at all which cannot be reduced to an encounter, and 
>>> 2. That the nature of encounters can be described as aesthetic 
>>> re-acquaintance, nested sensory-motive participation, or simply sense.
>>> 3. In consideration of 1, sense is understood in all cases to be 
>>> pre-mechanical, pre-arithmetic, and inescapably fundamental.
>>>
>>> My challenge then, is for CTM to provide a functional account of how 
>>> numbers encounter each other, and how they came to be separated from the 
>>> whole of arithmetic truth in the first place. We know that an actual 
>>> machine must encounter data through physical input to a hardware substrate, 
>>> but how does an ideal machine encounter data? How does it insulate itself 
>>> from data which is not relevant to the machine?
>>>
>>> Failing a satisfactory explanation of the fundamental mechanism behind 
>>> computation, I conclude that:
>>>
>>> 4. The logic which compels us to seek a computational or mechanical 
>>> theory of mind is rooted in an expectation of functional necessity.
>>> 5. This logic is directly contradicted by the absence of critical 
>>> inquiry to the mechanisms which provide arithmetic function.
>>> 6. CTM should be understood to be compromised by petito principii 
>>> fallacy, as it begs its own question by feigning to explain macro level 
>>> mental phenomena through brute inflation of its own micro level mental 
>>> phenomena which is overlooked entirely within CTM.
>>> 7. In consideration of 1-6, it must be seen that CTM is invalid, and 
>>> should possibly be replaced by an approach which addresses the fallacy 
>>> directly.
>>> 8. PIP (Primordial Identity Pansensitivity) offers a trans-theoretical 
>>> explanation in which the capacity for sense encounters is the sole axiom.
>>> 9. CTM can be rehabilitated, and all of its mathematical science can be 
>>> redeemed by translating into PIP terms, which amounts to reversing the 
>>> foundations of number theory so that they are sense-subordinate. 
>>> 10. This effectively renders CTM a theory of mind-like simulation, 
>>> rather than macro level minds, however, mind-simulation proceeds from PIP 
>>> as a perfectly viable cosmological inquiry, albeit from an impersonal, 
>>> theoretical platform of sense.
>>>
>>

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