2014-03-20 14:55 GMT+01:00 <[email protected]>: > Very well, go ahead and power it all down. Shut off the cars, kill the > lights, take a bike. >
What sort of crazy are you ? Why are you adding things not written ? Can you just count in binary ? Everything is always an all or nothing in your mind ? Quentin > Are you suggesting that we continue to burn filthy coal, or horrible > uranium, while we try to goose up solar and wind to replace it?!! Why that > will take decades and the catastrophe is already upon us. The heating of > the atmosphere and the degradation of the lands and seas, cannot wait (your > guys tell us). Or what are they really saying, put into motion in real > life? It comes down to a culture of complaint from the green-reds, rather > than actual workable solutions. I want technical solutions, but then, I am > in the minority, as you indicate, and your side (and it is your side) wants > people controlled and dominated (impoverished) and I see myself as someone > who'd rather help people, liberate them, rather that 'manage' them. If I > was one of the people who decided things, what would you do? > > No it doesn't have to... it's not because it can't currently replace > everything that it can't replace part of it... and it does thanks you're > not the one who decide things. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]> > To: everything-list <[email protected]> > Sent: Thu, Mar 20, 2014 9:36 am > Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating > > > > > 2014-03-20 14:34 GMT+01:00 <[email protected]>: > >> Please remember, solar, to remediate, must replace all nat gas, all >> coal, all uranium, all petro that all cities and cars. >> > > No it doesn't have to... it's not because it can't currently replace > everything that it can't replace part of it... and it does thanks you're > not the one who decide things. > > Quentin > > >> There are wonderful looking projects that have been proposed for 50 >> years, that for technical reasons, cannot achieve much, other than getting >> cheers from admirers in the media. I love it too, but it must do the >> rugged, robust, work, of replacement of the dirty-to be any good at all. It >> cannot simply be artist work on paper and splashed to the tech heads. My >> point: propaganda doesn't feed empty stomachs. >> >> If that solar farm described in SciAm had been realised it would have >> been carried out by a democratically elected government, not a dictatorship >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: LizR <[email protected]> >> To: everything-list <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:10 pm >> Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating >> >> On 20 March 2014 07:10, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Here's an article that informs me, if nobody else, how complicated the >>> climate thing is. >>> >>> http://phys.org/news/2014-03-goldilocks-principle-hypothesis-earth-habitability.html >>> >>> Beyond that I agree with John on his estimate of cutting the standard of >>> living down, to fit the ideal "environmental foot print." Improving the >>> standard of living with better energy technology will sustain the billions >>> and flourish the ecosystem-if done right. Technology is the answer, sans, >>> government rule of the public. Dictatorships, even well-meaning ones, are >>> horrible. Use Mao's approach to agricultural production during the Great >>> Leap Forward from 1958-62, as a prime example. >>> >>> If that solar farm described in SciAm had been realised it would have >> been carried out by a democratically elected government, not a >> dictatorship. Part of the point of having a government is to provide things >> that no individual or profit-based organisation would wish to do, such as >> building motorways, communications networks, hospitals, schools, power >> plants, rail networks, and other infrastructure. This would apply to some >> clean power schemes that are too large for a private investor, which >> applies to (some) tidal, wind, hydro, solar, nuclear etc. I can't imagine >> many private companies would have been building nuclear power plants off >> their own bat in the 1950s. >> >> So we need government to do stuff above the level that private enterprise >> can manage. 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