I presume that FPI includes consciousness. So ti seems that the consciousness level is below the substitution level and so I suspect that it cannot be transmitted by computer using only classical particle information. Richard
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 25 Mar 2014, at 07:28, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > > > > 2014-03-24 23:27 GMT+01:00 LizR <[email protected]>: > >> On 25 March 2014 11:03, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> 2014-03-24 22:00 GMT+01:00 Richard Ruquist <[email protected]>: >>> >>> Well then the question is How is cloning different from Asking the >>>> doctor to gather info from the substitution level to reproduce you at two >>>> different locations? To me at least that seems to be essentially cloning >>>> you. >>>> >>> >>> By computationalism "you" are duplicable at your substitution level >>> which by hypothesis is finite... but *matter* is not, because matter is >>> what is below your substitution level and is composed of an infinity of >>> computation. >>> >> >> I thought matter wasn't *necessarily *below your subst level. I'm fairly >> sure Bruno said the subst level could be at the level of fundamental >> particles, >> > > That's not "matter" in comp... matter is what is stable and below your > substitution level, so any piece of matter is "made of" an infinity of > computations, and that's why you can't "clone" it. Bruno will correct me if > I'm wrong. > > > Just to be sure, that's correct. With comp matter is "redefined" by the > FPI, on what the UD, or arithmetic "do" below our substitution level. > That's why "matter" inherit verifiable properties from computer science or > (intensional) arithmetic only. > > Bruno > > > > > Quentin > > >> or whatever is going on at the Planck length, or below... >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > > -- > All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. (Roy > Batty/Rutger Hauer) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
