On 16 May 2014, at 00:36, Dennis Ochei wrote:

Right Liz, the question is, does the memory link actually signify the presence of the same local I? Or does each moment have its own I? Or do all moments everywhere share a single global I? If there are local I's, then how are their boundaries drawn?

They are recovered by linking the representative brain ([]p) with the truth it refers too. In that case, you can prove that they have no boundaries---entailing what you seem to call the open theory, which is true in Heaven, not on Earth. On Earth you need consistent long term memories, efficacious short term memories, etc.



All of these questions are epiphenomenal from the point of view of physics so I fear there is no way for me to decide.

If comp is true, physics is "phenomenal". You need magic in matter to introduce a subjective immediately knowable difference between a computation in arithmetic and a computation is a primitive physical reality.

If we are machine, then the physical reality is an emerging pattern in machine's consciousness/knowledge, in arithmetic.

Bruno



All my observations and brain processes will be identical no matter which hypothesis is true.



On Thursday, May 15, 2014, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
Comp and the capsule theory of memory (and "Memento") suggest that a "person" is a series of person-moments, each of which is considered to last somewhere around 1/10th of a second (it could be longer or shorter and the idea would still hold) and assumed be the same person due to being linked by memories. Generally this is considered to be because of physical continuity, but comp-style thought experiments, at least, can deconstruct that idea. The question is whether physical continuity has some bearing on identity, or is just incidental (i.e. nature hasn't found any other way to do it). The usual argument against the importance of physical continuity is that we replace our cells - even our brain cells, apparently - every few hours/days/years/whatever. And more specifically, the atoms involved in a thought might go on to do something else - take part in a different thought, form a memory, pay a visit to the big toe... they're constantly being moved around, even without being lost from the system.


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